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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2009, 10:04:35 PM »

I'm a bit in love with this one, though it's like 5x what you wanna spend :(
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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2009, 10:10:47 PM »

I'm a bit in love with this one, though it's like 5x what you wanna spend :(


 :lol: if only I had the money to buy something at that price.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2009, 10:22:42 PM »
Spend a bit less and get a proper trem. The liscenced stuff on low end models will put you off floyds for life.

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cheapo floyd-style trems are utterly horrible. i'm one of the biggest floyd rose-style trem fanboys in the known world, and were i given the choice of a cheapo licensed floyd or no trem, i'd pick no trem.

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EDIT: i thought he meant a strat-style trem too (e.g. yamaha pacifica). :lol:

the only problem with retrofitting is that it's rarely a direct swap (even if just the studs are the wrong size, but often it's more than that), and those can get awkward if (like me) you have no DIY experience. also, add the price of the "good" trem (likely to be, at very least, about £120 if not closer to £150) onto the price of a cheaper guitar and you could probably have just got a better guitar with a good trem in the first place... an ibanez rg1570 used to be about £450, though the prices have probably gone up recently, which makes things more awkward...
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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2009, 10:30:19 PM »
I have a peavey super strat that usually goes new for around £320+ and the floyd is absolutely horrific.

Isn't there a music man guitar thats around £250 with an ORIGINAL FLOYS ROSE. You can pay that much for just a floyd alone. the guitar might be cr@p but if you upgrade later you have your original floyd rose. Or you could upgrade the guitar itself.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2009, 10:34:44 PM »
I personally strongly dislike superstrats.

I dig some Fenders though and you can always hotrod those.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2009, 10:36:30 PM »
^ (jibidy) yeah, there was, but i think OLP have packed up now. also some bc riches around that price claim to have OFRs too, but they seem to be really rare. the ibanez s series has the ZR trem, which isn't exactly the same as a floyd, but is pretty good.

the big problem is that some trems which are being labelled as Original Floyd Roses are now being made in Korea (i think), rather than being made by Schaller in Germany. I think they're labelled as FRT-x000 trems, but not all manufacturers label them as such, often they just call them original floyd roses. I have no idea if they're as good as the german schaller-made ones, but i'd be extremely wary (apart from anything, they're moving production to save money, so they might be skimping on the quality too). they even have them on those newer charvels (which aren't exactly cheap), and allegedly on that new EVH signature guitar too (which really isn't cheap at all). i think you can tell by the shape of the saddles (the korean ones have bevelled edges, the german ones straight edges), but i'm not 100% on that.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2009, 10:37:24 PM »
I personally strongly dislike superstrats.

I dig some Fenders though and you can always hotrod those.

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Its not offensive or anything. I like strats, though. Not as much as superstrats, but I do like em.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2009, 10:48:10 PM »
I like my LFR :(
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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2009, 10:57:57 PM »
I like my LFR :(

I have 2 that are OK. Not all LFRs are created equal, though.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2009, 11:01:00 AM »
Well it would seem that buying a fixed bridge guitar and either upgrading or trading up at a later date seems to be the way the wind is blowing, however it would ultimatly be waaay more than I want to spend on a guitar that's just going to be used for bedroom practice and playing along with the Simpsons  :D.

I was quite impressed with the RG320 and Ltd M-100 I tried, what are the problems I'm likley to encounter were I to go for one of these and if you had to choose one of the two which would you go for?

I have to admit I do like that RGR421 in lavender (I should get my head read for even considering a lavender guitar, it'll be pink paisley next  :lol:)

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2009, 02:38:18 PM »
Maybe see if merchant city music can get you one of these? http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/hex_xt.html
Looking at their pricing I'd imagine they could do it for just over £300.
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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2009, 06:01:54 PM »
Maybe see if merchant city music can get you one of these? http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/hex_xt.html
Looking at their pricing I'd imagine they could do it for just over £300.

I was actually thinking about one of those in blood red, the only drawback is the mahogany/maple body combination, I really need something lighter like alder or basswood otherwise I'll be suffering.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2009, 08:53:19 PM »
^ if you think you might like it, it'd be worth a try... mahogany isn't always that heavy. EDIT: according to the link it says basswood :?

I have 2 that are OK. Not all LFRs are created equal, though.

+1. some LFRs are equal to, if not better than, OFRs (e.g. Gotoh, Schaller, Ibanez Edge etc.), while some are just horrible. i can't speak for anyone else, but when i talk about "cheapo" LFRs, I'm talking about the horrible ones (as the good LFRs generally aren't cheap).

Well it would seem that buying a fixed bridge guitar and either upgrading or trading up at a later date seems to be the way the wind is blowing, however it would ultimatly be waaay more than I want to spend on a guitar that's just going to be used for bedroom practice and playing along with the Simpsons  :D.

I was quite impressed with the RG320 and Ltd M-100 I tried, what are the problems I'm likley to encounter were I to go for one of these and if you had to choose one of the two which would you go for?

I have to admit I do like that RGR421 in lavender (I should get my head read for even considering a lavender guitar, it'll be pink paisley next  :lol:)

the big problem, as we've already said, is that if you use the trem much (heck, even if you don't, but more use will exacerbate it), there's a pretty good chance that the locking trems on cheaper guitars will cr@p out eventually (with "eventually" varying between a couple of months and a couple of years, most likely). the big problem is, unless it's a completely terrible trem, it probably won't be too obvious in the shop that it's a bad trem, as it'll probably hold tuning ok in the shop (unless you're used to quality locking trems, in which case you might notice a not amazing tone, lack of responsiveness etc.).

that esp is listed as having a floyd rose special bridge... not the floyd rose 1000 which the higher-end LTD 1000s have (and not the floyd rose original which the real esps have, i.e. the made in germany one, as far as i'm aware). with any luck it's not a completely horrible one, but it's probably not great either (or they'd put it on the higher-end models).

i can't find either of those ibanez models on the ibanez site, i'm assuming they have edge IIIs... again, not great. they're meant to be ok while they last, but how long it'll last is the question... i've heard some people saying they last ok, and others saying they cr@pped out on them.

it's your money, and your choice, at the end of the day. just it's only fair to warn you- if you ask me, there are some things which you can cheap out on with guitars, which can be easily replaced later- e.g. pickups. locking trems aren't really one you should be cheaping out on, if you ask me- they can spoil an otherwise good guitar, and are often a false economy into the bargain too, if you do decide to upgrade them later.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2009, 09:55:45 AM »
Thanks guys, you've been a great help. I'm thinking I'll go with your advice and track down a hardtail and refit it at a later date with quality hardware.

It's nice to be able to get quality advice without having to trawl through a thousand reviews by teenagers who've only been playing for 2 months or biased manufacturers advertising.

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Re: Superstrat advice
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2009, 09:57:36 AM »
the best superstrats are the ones you put together yourself ;)
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