New Amp Advice

[Bradock PI]

I am an expert at listening to tone and sounds I have been a hifi buff for over 20 years with a decent vinyl system although I had a friend with a system close to £100k which did sound amazing but he not in the UK anymore.

Here http://www.rockporttechnologies.com/ you can see his TT look up Hall of fame - System II sirius

He had two of these amps they are 21" deep http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/krell/amplifiers/ksa-200/PRD_408410_1583crx.aspx

Although having listened some more at home I was thinking wow that distorion kicks in fast and I just realised we demmed a HTdist but they have given me a HTdistX whicj is probably a little over the top for me.

[Ian Price]

 :roll:

Let's get this back on topic. My opinion on this is to go for a low powered valve amp. I am fond of my Laney Lionheart - you can get a second hand one at a reasonable price, they're not too loud unless oyu really crank them and they take pedals well. I would sell the Marsall and use money from that to fund the Laney. Just my opinion of course and I'm no expert in tone and sound.

[Lew]

I am an expert at listening to tone and sounds I have been a hifi buff for over 20 years with a decent vinyl system although I had a friend with a system close to £100k which did sound amazing but he not in the UK anymore.

Here http://www.rockporttechnologies.com/ you can see his TT look up Hall of fame - System II sirius

He had two of these amps they are 21" deep http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/krell/amplifiers/ksa-200/PRD_408410_1583crx.aspx

Although having listened some more at home I was thinking wow that distorion kicks in fast and I just realised we demmed a HTdist but they have given me a HTdistX whicj is probably a little over the top for me.

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Has the Cornford Harlequin been suggested yet? It's not my cup of tea but plenty of players swear by them.

[Bradock PI]

Ok back on Topic - considering there was an issue with an amp that was £70 more than a Laney VC30 isn't the Cornford a little rich in this company.

When I looked and spoke to people about the LC and VC30 I was told they are great amps but can be a little flakey and some heating problems this put me off.

The other advice I would give is take a friend who can also play or in my case who can play !!  :lol:

I lecture on the ear auditory responses and the physics of sound and the cognitive process for subtle details and character depends to some extent on devoting your mind to the task. So you will "hear" better if you are just listening, of course you should play as well but when you get down to the last two or three have someone else play and just listen and tweak it also really does help if you close your eyes but only do that if all those around you can be trusted or who knows what may befall you. If possible try to get dems off the weekend when shops are quieter.

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I'm no expert in tone and sound.

I never said I was an expert in tone and sounds I said I was expert at listening to them which means I know how to listen and what to listen for.  Sorry for being so pedantic but if your injecting a little sarcasm then its good to get it right  :)

[Lew]

Harlequins regularly pop up on ebay for 400  8)

[noodleplugerine]

You'll have to post some clips up Bradock. For a person who was considering the purchase of their first guitar at the start of the month you sound like an expert already.

That's a bit out of order, you don't need 6 years of playing experience to turn a few knobs and see how gainy a rig can and can't get.

[Ian Price]

I never said I was an expert in tone and sounds I said I was expert at listening to them which means I know how to listen and what to listen for.  Sorry for being so pedantic but if your injecting a little sarcasm then its good to get it right  :)

Yes - there was a little sarcasm in my response. I have no trouble with pedanticism as detail is important. I guess my sarcasm was due to being a little jaded with almost constant reminders and hints that you are an expert in tone and sound etc. I get the picture (or should that be sound  :)) Sometimes I feel a little humility goes a very long way. Apologies if this offends, it isn't intended to - the strength of the forum is about having a good cross section of people on it but with a like minded attitude to all things guitar (apart from Teles).

[Ian Price]

You'll have to post some clips up Bradock. For a person who was considering the purchase of their first guitar at the start of the month you sound like an expert already.

That's a bit out of order, you don't need 6 years of playing experience to turn a few knobs and see how gainy a rig can and can't get.

Apologies - it's late and I've had a pretty bad day. I agree with your comment entirely.

EDIT - that should read I had a pretty bad yesterday.

[Lew]

We're all up late tonight!  :lol:


 

[Bradock PI]

I used to play MMRPGs with ameicans till the wee small hours this isn't late yet!

I am sorry I really don't want to come across as a blowhard I am aware that I am new to the forums and people know little about me I generally post on three grounds either I feel I have specific knowledge or I am posting as devils advocate which may mean I post something controvercial which I don't necessarily even agree with or I try to post from humour.

If my post based on experience is questioned then I do try to support it with background information as to my qualification or experience to post on the issue. This seems to be comming across as " ^&&*%$ does this guy need the daylight with so much sun shining from his a**".

Spending several hundred pounds on a second hand valve amp can be a dodgy business and if you are risk averse I wouldn't advise it unless you are handy with a soldering iron or know a good tech. It's easy to get your fingers burned (pun intended).

and we are off topic again.

NB. Sorry to hear you had a bad day Ian lets hope today is a lot better for you  8)

[Lew]

mmorpgs=satan  :D :D

Buying used amps is fine! :)

[Bradock PI]

Lew reply to this and grats on 500 posts.

[Ian Price]

mmorpgs=satan  :D :D

I had to look this up for it's meaning. I now understand - well, sort of. I've never been on one (or whatever the term for being on one is called)

And yes, you can get a S/H Harlequin for pretty good money - back on thread!

[Lew]

I would never admit to having played mmorpgs  :P

There are so many bargains out there at the mo due to the economy, there was a Soldano Hotrod for 600 in the back of Guitarist recently!! Make sure you take your time and shop around.

[tomjackson]

Ok back on Topic - considering there was an issue with an amp that was £70 more than a Laney VC30 isn't the Cornford a little rich in this company.

When I looked and spoke to people about the LC and VC30 I was told they are great amps but can be a little flakey and some heating problems this put me off.

The other advice I would give is take a friend who can also play or in my case who can play !!  :lol:

I lecture on the ear auditory responses and the physics of sound and the cognitive process for subtle details and character depends to some extent on devoting your mind to the task. So you will "hear" better if you are just listening, of course you should play as well but when you get down to the last two or three have someone else play and just listen and tweak it also really does help if you close your eyes but only do that if all those around you can be trusted or who knows what may befall you. If possible try to get dems off the weekend when shops are quieter.

:roll:
I'm no expert in tone and sound.

I never said I was an expert in tone and sounds I said I was expert at listening to them which means I know how to listen and what to listen for.  Sorry for being so pedantic but if your injecting a little sarcasm then its good to get it right  :)

I've had 2 VC30's over the years (always seem to get one when I need to free up some cash!) and never had a problem.  The first was gigged extensively at pretty much full volume and the second well gigged also.  Never had a major problem other than the odd valve which is par for the course.  Plus they come with a 5 year Warranty so In my experience they are definitely not flakey.