Guys, seriously. Those lightning speed metal songs won't make you a tight rhythm player.
Those songs make you play fast. There's plenty of guys who can play fast songs tight simply because they play as fast as they can.
It's the slower songs with basic drums and a couple of stops here and there that make you play tight.
I agree with this, you can lose time easier as there is more space to fill with much less notes.
In a non stop song, I can go through fine. Give me a dramatic pause and I mess up
So your sense of timing means that fast playing needs only to simply be fast, and that slow is tighter?
No.
Tight is tight. It can be slow or fast, but, if its what you want to do, and some songs/musics need that energy, getting to the point where you can play fast and in time and playing tightly are inexfuckingtricable.
You may find slower harder. Fine.
But you try playing warpigs, with its slow pace and dramatic pauses, then try playing bleed and tell me which needs the tighter playing.
I'm with MDV here. It's just total bullshiteeeeeeeeee to say that fast metal doesn't help with tight playing, and doesn't require it. I'm not saying that slow tracks aren't helpful in their own right, but it's a very different thing. I would suggest that finding it difficult to keep in time with slow tracks is more an issue with musicality than with technical ability, whereas problems keeping in time with fast stuff (eg Bleed) is far more indicative of 'problems' with technical ability than with feel and musical intuition.
100% agreed. Keeping time slow is part clean playing, a part thats a minute fraction of that needed for fast playing, and greatest part being able to get into the groove of the track and feel the tempo, hear the beats that arent played in your head.
Playing fast needs you to feel the tempo just as much, and have clean, controlled technique far beyond that needed for slower paced stuff.
Of course do both, but saying that learning to play fast simply requires "being" fast, and not tight technique is trouser-suckingly, udder-fondlingly insane, and such words may only be spoken by someone who cant do it or has no interest in it and has accordingly found a way to dismiss it. If its not your thing, thats cool, its not a notes-per-second race, but the fact is you CANT get to play fast (no one simply '"is" fast) without tight technique.
Edit - I voyagers a good shout, but I think that much of the difficulty that track poses is getting your head and hands round the timings, not the technique needed (which is good technique, and not to be sniffed at, but there are far more technique-intensive songs out there, in rhythm). Unless you mean the solo, in which case, a thousand times yes, but thats....errrrr....not rhythm.
I see you I voyager and raise you Testament - legions of the dead.
