Anyone know much about old Hitachi hifi stuff?

[MDV]

I still have nightmares about some sony one-box speakers I used to have.

Christ they were awfull. They were...no, sorry, I cant say any more...it hurts my ears just thinking about them

[_tom_]

haha thats how I feel about my creative pc speakers since hearing decent hifi stuff. No sense of space, it all just seems like a jumbled grainy mess.

Think I will go for those 902is as they seem to be going for reasonable prices on ebay. Then I can think about upgrading the amp.

[Denim n Leather]

CM2's are garbage.


In my opinion.

Thanks for that, should I hide mine in shame?  :P

LOL

No way, dude!

If you like em, flaunt 'em!

Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on your viewpoint, I'm surrounded by loudspeakers that would make angels weep. So my opinion, while backed by a LOT of listening to a LOT of loudspeakers, is just that -- my opinion.

[Denim n Leather]

I still have nightmares about some sony one-box speakers I used to have.

Christ they were awfull. They were...no, sorry, I cant say any more...it hurts my ears just thinking about them

I will not comment on the one pair of Sony loudspeakers I've heard. But I will say this -- Sony should stick to digital media and game consoles and stay the frig outta hifi!!!!

[ailean]

CM2's are garbage.


In my opinion.

Thanks for that, should I hide mine in shame?  :P

LOL

No way, dude!

If you like em, flaunt 'em!

Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on your viewpoint, I'm surrounded by loudspeakers that would make angels weep. So my opinion, while backed by a LOT of listening to a LOT of loudspeakers, is just that -- my opinion.

Well I do like 'em and they are staying :) However, I'd be intetested to know what you dislike about them? I'm alwasy willing to listen to input (except right after a purchase then it's LaLaLa Not Listening, until I've made my own mind up if I did the right thing :) ). Don't want to thread hijack tom, so PM me if you can be bothered.

[Johnny Mac]

I use a pair of Linn Turkan speakers from an old technics amp from my pc, for recording. I don't tend to monitor on them though I use a pair of Bayer headphones. If I keep the EQ flat on the amp for monitoring it's seems ok.

Question, monitors don't require an amp?  :?

[Denim n Leather]

You mean Tukans, Johnny? How old are they?

You can tame a Tukan's hot high frequencies by inverting the speaker so that the tweeter is under the woofer. Might not be the case if the Technics isn't putting out much sizzle.

[MDV]

I use a pair of Linn Turkan speakers from an old technics amp from my pc, for recording. I don't tend to monitor on them though I use a pair of Bayer headphones. If I keep the EQ flat on the amp for monitoring it's seems ok.

Question, monitors don't require an amp?  :?

The vast majority of monitors are internally amplified, so no, they dont require an amp.

Any worth their salt are typically bi-amplified as well.

Its to match the amp/s to the speakers.

Passive monitors are available, especially older ones, but I know folks that have spent years trying to get a speaker/amp match up they're happy with for monitoring.

[Johnny Mac]

You mean Tukans, Johnny? How old are they?

You can tame a Tukan's hot high frequencies by inverting the speaker so that the tweeter is under the woofer. Might not be the case if the Technics isn't putting out much sizzle.

Your memory isn't what it was Ben!  You told me about that when i got them 4 years ago! The amp seems ok but old, i mean 1984 midi size. They sound pretty good. Do you think they are ok for monitoring?

[Johnny Mac]

I use a pair of Linn Turkan speakers from an old technics amp from my pc, for recording. I don't tend to monitor on them though I use a pair of Bayer headphones. If I keep the EQ flat on the amp for monitoring it's seems ok.

Question, monitors don't require an amp?  :?

The vast majority of monitors are internally amplified, so no, they dont require an amp.

Any worth their salt are typically bi-amplified as well.

Its to match the amp/s to the speakers.

Passive monitors are available, especially older ones, but I know folks that have spent years trying to get a speaker/amp match up they're happy with for monitoring.

Ahh I never knew that. That would explain why they cost so much. Is there a noticeable difference from monitors and a pair of hifi speakers and good amp?

[_tom_]

I think the difference is that monitors are made to be revealing and give an honest depiction of the sound/mix, whilst hifi stuff is just meant to make it sound good?

[Denim n Leather]

You mean Tukans, Johnny? How old are they?

You can tame a Tukan's hot high frequencies by inverting the speaker so that the tweeter is under the woofer. Might not be the case if the Technics isn't putting out much sizzle.

Your memory isn't what it was Ben!  You told me about that when i got them 4 years ago! The amp seems ok but old, i mean 1984 midi size. They sound pretty good. Do you think they are ok for monitoring?

I've had 2 kids since then! It's a miracle I can remember my own name!!

Yeah, the Tukans can work fine, as long as you take the Linn "warm midbass" into account.

[MDV]

I use a pair of Linn Turkan speakers from an old technics amp from my pc, for recording. I don't tend to monitor on them though I use a pair of Bayer headphones. If I keep the EQ flat on the amp for monitoring it's seems ok.

Question, monitors don't require an amp?  :?

The vast majority of monitors are internally amplified, so no, they dont require an amp.

Any worth their salt are typically bi-amplified as well.

Its to match the amp/s to the speakers.

Passive monitors are available, especially older ones, but I know folks that have spent years trying to get a speaker/amp match up they're happy with for monitoring.

Ahh I never knew that. That would explain why they cost so much. Is there a noticeable difference from monitors and a pair of hifi speakers and good amp?

Yes, very, very much so.

Speakers are by far and away, in my experience, the strongest influence on the sound you hear, followed by amp, followed by source.

The various combinations of amps and speakers I've had (including hifi speakers and passive near-field monitors) all sound very different, and my adam a-7s, the only active monitors I've spent time in the same rooms (also a very big infuence, as is speaker location) as the passive stuff, sound very different again.

Bens the expert on this stuff, though. I just dabble. I havent dabbled in a while eithers, since I'm very happy with my adam A7/Sub 8 combo and my hifi setup in the lounge doesnt need to be any better than it is.

[Johnny Mac]

I use a pair of Linn Turkan speakers from an old technics amp from my pc, for recording. I don't tend to monitor on them though I use a pair of Bayer headphones. If I keep the EQ flat on the amp for monitoring it's seems ok.

Question, monitors don't require an amp?  :?

The vast majority of monitors are internally amplified, so no, they dont require an amp.

Any worth their salt are typically bi-amplified as well.

Its to match the amp/s to the speakers.

Passive monitors are available, especially older ones, but I know folks that have spent years trying to get a speaker/amp match up they're happy with for monitoring.

Ahh I never knew that. That would explain why they cost so much. Is there a noticeable difference from monitors and a pair of hifi speakers and good amp?

Yes, very, very much so.

Speakers are by far and away, in my experience, the strongest influence on the sound you hear, followed by amp, followed by source.

The various combinations of amps and speakers I've had (including hifi speakers and passive near-field monitors) all sound very different, and my adam a-7s, the only active monitors I've spent time in the same rooms (also a very big infuence, as is speaker location) as the passive stuff, sound very different again.

Bens the expert on this stuff, though. I just dabble. I havent dabbled in a while eithers, since I'm very happy with my adam A7/Sub 8 combo and my hifi setup in the lounge doesnt need to be any better than it is.

I see what you mean. I'll have to get some monitors at some point to see what there like.
When you play your recordings on hi-fi equipment does it sound even better once you have got the mix and recorded tones exactly where you want them?
I normally monitor with Bayer headphones, DT100's and they seem to be neutral sounding. They go into a headphone socket on the front of my EMU 1820 recording interface. Once I've mastered the track they sound pretty good to my ears in my car on a Bose system. The other thing is i have to watch my noise levels at home when the neighbors are in.