Wiring 2 buckers to 3-way switch and then directly to jack?

[Madiac]

Hey, well, ive decided to take things in my own hands with my Feline SG, last time i let a guitartech mess with it, it ended up sounding worse than when i got it as it was (note to self, leave guitars as they are, especially when they are fine...!). So im doing a setup with the 10-52 set Jonathan sent with it, however to the point...

While im doing a set-up ive decided to simply remove all the pots and leave the holes as they are, they wont bother me and just make it simple. In the end im just tired of messing around with tone and volume pots, and theres always something wrong, the volume not scaling of as i want, or the volume pot not cutting the sound completely when off, tone pot not working etc etc etc etc)...

So what im wanting to do is to connect the pickups straight to the jack (including the three way switch ofcourse, ill certainly have use for both pickups). So is it even possible to connect two humbuckers via a three way switch and then to the jack? In that case, how? Please be detailed but still keep it at beginner levels (ive only changed pups once, and i couldnt get the coil-tap properly) so that my brain can process  :lol: Will it be hard?

Appreciate any help, really!

[WezV]

its just like wiring a 3-way switch for master volume and tone - except you leave out the master volume and tone ;)

here is a wiring diagram
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/WDUHH3T1101

notice both pickups go straight to either side of the 3 way switch.  then the middle connection goes to the master volume.  well you want to take that connection straight to the jack

[Philly Q]

The only thing I'm not sure about is where to wire the grounds from the pickups and the jack. 

There'll be some kind of ground lug on the metal chassis of the switch, but it might be a bit tricky to solder three wires there!

[Madiac]

Thank you. I gotta check the cavity when i get home again. Do anyone know the BKP correspondances to the link given? Just so i can sort out all colors. I also think theres a white wire going from somewhere inside guitar, cos theirs a seperate hole other than the one where the pickup wires come from if i remember correctly, could it be a bridge ground?. I could take pics i guess, but where do i ground the ground wires from the pickup?

[gwEm]

i would solder a 470k resistor between ground and the hot output also

[hamfist]

i would solder a 470k resistor between ground and the hot output also

Why ?  I'm not questioning you. It's just I'm a bit of an ignoramous about guitar wiring stuff.

[Madiac]

i would solder a 470k resistor between ground and the hot output also

Why ?  I'm not questioning you. It's just I'm a bit of an ignoramous about guitar wiring stuff.

I guess to darken the tone, but i have no interest in doing that, afterall, were talking about warpigs in an all mahogany/rosewood SG :)

[Philly Q]

Do anyone know the BKP correspondances to the link given? Just so i can sort out all colors. I also think theres a white wire going from somewhere inside guitar, cos theirs a seperate hole other than the one where the pickup wires come from if i remember correctly, could it be a bridge ground?.

Red wires to the switch, black and bare wires to ground, green & white soldered together and taped.

As you guessed, the extra wire will be the ground from the bridge or tailpiece.

[Madiac]

Ok, now another problem, i just noticed that there are two separate thin black wires running from each pickup drill hole running along each pickup cable. So other than the pickup cable there are 2 small black ones from the same drill holes and one thick white wire with a separate.

[Philly Q]

Ok, now another problem, i just noticed that there are two separate thin black wires running from each pickup drill hole running along each pickup cable. So other than the pickup cable there are 2 small black ones from the same drill holes and one thick white wire with a separate.

If you take the scratchplate off, what are these two extra wires connected to in the pickup cavities?

I suspect they may be for connecting shielding foil (or conductive paint) in the cavities to ground.  Yet more ground wires!

[Madiac]

I cant remove the pups right now, there is no scratchplate by the way;) However, i noted that those two black wires that you suspect are grounding wires, are soldered together to one. There is conductive spray in the electronics cavity, but im not sure about the pickup cavities. But where the heck do i put all grounding wires now? :lol:
As it seems, i have to ground the switch, pickups, bridge, possibly some pickup cavity, and the jack? Is it even possible to ground now? Have i messed something up?

[WezV]

fenders solution to your problem is to have a little screw in the cavity that holds some wiring lugs

this then becomes the point all grounds are soldered too and keeps the wiring around that switch much clearer

[Philly Q]

fenders solution to your problem is to have a little screw in the cavity that holds some wiring lugs

this then becomes the point all grounds are soldered too and keeps the wiring around that switch much clearer

Yeah, agreed.  I think you might find similar lugs at the ends of the wires in the pickup cavities. 

You might need a few lugs since there are so many wires - switch, jack, 2 pickups, bridge ground, pickup cavity shield wires!   Maybe solder 2 or 3 wires to each lug, then put a screw through the middle of all the lugs and screw them to the side of the control cavity so they also contact the shielding paint.

[Madiac]

Ok thanks, before proceeding, are there any alternatives to drilling? Anyhow, i wonder one other thing, there are 2 lugs on the jack, which one is for the ground, and which one for the switch:/? Is there any way to tell them apart, or do they function the same?

[Will]

Just glue the pots in place and don't touch them?