pickup for a dean ml

[Frank666]

Hi all, as the title suggests I'm stuck for what pickups to stick in my dean ml (well it will be mine soon, waiting on delivery). It's a USA made dean without the floyd, I'm looking for a hard rock pickup but able for sabbath and early metallica and megadeth stuff too. So far I'm stuck between a Crawler set or a Nailbomb set. Any other suggestions?

[Dr. Vic]

I advise you not to go for a crawler. It's a versatile pickup, able to play some heavy metal, but it will be too warm and rounded in that guitar for Metallica stuff, and far not enough tight, agressive and sharp for some Megadeth riffage.

The Nailbomb is said to be great for the Modern 'deth tone (since youthanasia). But once again I'm not sure it will pair well with that huge slice of mahogany you have as a guitar ! But it will be the best Alnico choice, I think.

If you are not against Ceramic, then it might be a better option for you... :guitar4:

Imo, the CS combo will fit you just fine :  tight and very clear sound, with a great versality to play some great cleans. I am expecting him to give a spectacular result in this guitar and a great cuttin' sound with enough chunk. You'll nail both Megadeth and Metallica with it thanks to it's even EQ that doesn't color the natural sound of your guitar.. 

BUT For a fuller sound with more power AND tightness you can go with either a Painkiller or a Miracle Man, still with a CS neck.  :twisted: :twisted:

The upper mid cut / tightness / clarity of the Painkiller IS the countdown / RIP sounds,  whereas the low mids push  of the MM will be more in the Metallica / modern Deth sound, but less versatile than the PK and of course the CS.....

so many options...... :good:

[Frank666]

It's not that I'm against ceramic, just never had any. What I've got so far are a set of mules in a les paul (fantastic sound too) and trying to sort out a heavy sounding guitar. Cold sweat eh? Must give it a go

[DimeZakk]

Does your ML have a Maple Cap? If yes then both Nailbomb and Cold sweat are an option and it comes down to your personal taste, if it has no cap then definitely cold Sweat!

[Frank666]

It'll have a cap but not a particularly thick one, think it's more ornamental than anything else

[ericsabbath]

cold sweat or painkiller
similar pickups, but the sweat is a bit more crunchy, balanced, versatile and slightly warmer
the painkiller is louder, more middy and cuts "harder"

[Ratrod]

I'd say Painkiller.

It'll do most of what you want, it's always a good choise for V's and Explorers that want to do metal and it would be pretty close to what you would have found in a seventies or early eighties Dean.

[MDV]

I'd keep well away from the CS and PK for sabbath capability. That would be NB or WP.

It may seem overkill on the gain front, but so long as you can use a volume control and your amps gain, I recommend a warpig.

[ericsabbath]

I'd keep well away from the CS and PK for sabbath capability. That would be NB or WP.

It may seem overkill on the gain front, but so long as you can use a volume control and your amps gain, I recommend a warpig.

I guess your over 900 years eyes aren't working properly anymore, old jedi

I think you read:

I'm looking for a sabbath pickup but able for sabbath and early sabbath and sabbath stuff too.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Dr. Vic]

I think I have found something even more funny !

cold sweat or painkiller

I'd keep well away from the CS and PK.. .

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Dr. Vic]

That said i'll be very curious to listen to a WP in such a big mahogany-bodied guitar.. Won't it be faaaaaaaaarrr to beefy for Metallica and faaaaaaaaarr to dark for the EARLY 'Deth tone, (unless you set your Amp gain to 1) ????

[MDV]

I'd keep well away from the CS and PK for sabbath capability. That would be NB or WP.

It may seem overkill on the gain front, but so long as you can use a volume control and your amps gain, I recommend a warpig.

I guess your over 900 years eyes aren't working properly anymore, old jedi

I think you read:

I'm looking for a sabbath pickup but able for sabbath and early sabbath and sabbath stuff too.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your dark powers shall not avail you, evil one!

For the full breadth of the tones required, the warpig is the best pickup!

The CS and the PK are both too light-saber-like in their razor edge, whereas the WP is tight and aggressive enough for the thrash, but evil and grinding enough for the sabbath. Its more versatile than most (mainly Dr Vic in this thread ;)) give it credit for. It can handle this job, provided one can dial in an amp and use a volume pot. The ceramics are all a bit too razor-edged to cover all the bases here. If it were just metallica.....but its not!

[Dr. Vic]

The CS and the PK are both too light-saber-like in their razor edge, whereas the WP is tight and aggressive enough for the thrash, but evil and grinding enough for the sabbath. Its more versatile than most (mainly Dr Vic in this thread ;)) give it credit for. It can handle this job, provided one can dial in an amp and use a volume pot. The ceramics are all a bit too razor-edged to cover all the bases here. If it were just metallica.....but its not!

I was more on what Tim told me when I mention him the WP exactely for the same Megadeth / Metallica Stuff (But I wasn't in sabbath tones though...)

Quite strange Yoda to see you not singing the praises of ceramics over alnico (especially in that guitar) for some EARLY YEARS 'Deth / metallica tones... :twisted:

This is not to contradict you (you know the Pigs better than me  :mrgreen:), but still wondering how some holywars track would sound in a big mahogany bodied guitar with a WP in it...  :roll:

[MDV]

We arent talking the sounds of specific songs....are we...? For getting all that lot, the WP is my suggestion. Yes its overkill low end for most early metallica, but not AJFA or the black album, (if its your thing theyre great for a load and reload sound (and dont let anyone tell you different....but nailbombs are better for it)), and a lot of deths in there, plus theres the sabbath. Want it all in one pickup? I has. Its called a warpig and an EQ and gain dial. Most amps have them.

Anyway, no BK sounds as irritating and spiky as the tone on holy wars :P

[Dr. Vic]

Anyway, no BK sounds as irritating and spiky as the tone on holy wars :P

 
Don't even try to speak again like this about this state-of-the-art-speed-metal-masterpiece  !!

But.....Yes, I have to admit....love rust in peace for its songs, not for its sound, which is indeed, cr@ppy...

...but it will be even more cr@ppier.... if played with the Pig !  :P