John Petrucci pickups and sound

[Dr. Vic]

Which BKP will the the closest to the D-sonic fitted as standard in his music man ?

And with which rig would it combine well to nail the sound of "pull me under" (amp / pedal ?) ?

[James C]

I'm not sure whether it's very close to the D-Sonic, but Tim recommended Nailbombs to me for the JP tone (Ibanez RG), lots of muscle but really good cleans. Amp would be Mesa Mark IIC+ or Roadking/Lonestar, an Acoustic Sim or just Chorus/delay would help with the clean tone for 'Pull Me Under'.

[dave_mc]

don't know about which BKPs, but if you're talking about the images and words album version of pull me under, I'm guessing he wasn't using a d-sonic then as it's a relatively new pickup, i think.

[ericsabbath]

And with which rig would it combine well to nail the sound of "pull me under" (amp / pedal ?) ?

I guess he used a tonezone (bridge) and a humbucker from hell (neck)

[dave_mc]

quite possibly, I'm not sure of the exact pickups he used, but that sounds plausible. :)

[James C]

Petrucci used the steve's special and a humbucker from hell for images and words then moved to the Air Norton (or a variant of) for the neck position in his ibanez JPM model. the cleans are the two hb's split in the centre position.

[ericsabbath]

Petrucci used the steve's special and a humbucker from hell for images and words then moved to the Air Norton (or a variant of) for the neck position in his ibanez JPM model. the cleans are the two hb's split in the centre position.

I don't think the steve's special is that old

[sebby123]

Tim told me for that petrucci sound you need a ceramic he recommened the painkiller for me!

As for amps and fx Mesa Mark IV, Eventide Time factor , BB preamp , RC booster and Keeley compressor have gotten me the perfect scenes from a memory tone which is my all time recorded tone

[Dr. Vic]

Well.. I realised that I asked for 2 questions in one !  :lol:

so the first one will be : which BKP is the most similar to the Di Marzio D-sonic (ceramic) fitted as standard in the Petrucci musicman guitar ?

the second one is : What BKP would you recommend to nail the riff of "Pull me under" with an all mahogany superstrat (neck thru design) ? I have the 2007 remastered /remix version of this song and the sound is an ABSOLUTE blast. Love it so much. Here is (only) the standard version. The riff starts at  0:17

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/portnoy/video/x2e6zy_dream-theater-pull-me-under_music


Mesa seems to be the amp to consider but....ceramic or not ceramic ?

Tim told me for that petrucci sound you need a ceramic he recommened the painkiller for me!

I'm not sure whether it's very close to the D-Sonic, but Tim recommended Nailbombs to me for the JP tone

 :gne:

[James C]

Tim recommended the Nailbomb to me for the Basswood RG, but i was also looking at the Ibanez S series (mahogany), which he recommended Painkillers for.

Quote from Tim's email to me:

The Petrucci tone requires a little more power (than Chris Brodericks) and I usually recommend the
Painkiller 7s for that and I'd definitely go that route if you go with
the mahogany S7320. If you decide to go the RG route I think Nailbombs
will give you the versatility to cover Dream Theater to Satch etc and
they always seem to be a staple fav of the 7 string players.

Hope this helps

[Dr. Vic]

nice quote from Tim, thanks !  8)

[sebby123]

From the clip i would say ceramic

[Dr. Vic]

thanks guys.

Any idea of how the D-Sonic does sound like ? And a BKP equivalent, as far as it is possible to say....(I really had bad experiences each time I've tried a Dimarzio, and there is so many models available...)



 

[sebby123]

I found it to be rather dark in all the jp6's i played but that could also be the guitar

[dheim]

uhm... it doesn't sound like something too special (i mean tone, i listened to that song maaaaany years ago an d i remember it was quite cool), nailbombs should achieve it with eyes closed...