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d1dsj

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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2009, 01:55:45 PM »
Just a thought ... I wouldn't think that £40 would include a fret dress/ crowning although I think the tech should have identified the problem and advised you prior to carrying out the work.

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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2009, 02:08:13 PM »
well,
I have all my guitars set up by the fellow at spares & repairs,i must say ive never had a prob with any of his work,i have 11 guitars and he has set up and serviced every one of them,he refretted my early 80s fernandes strat a like and it plays like a dream,low action and fantastic,i cant recommend him highly enough,in fact he fitted my PG blues to my 82 Tokai love rock!
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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2009, 04:18:53 PM »
Here's a clip, lol.

I've got the buzz down loads since I got it back from the shop, but it's still there on nearly every chord involving the E string.
  Yeah,that sounds pretty bad ,indeed :? I wanted to tell you to wait until you could plug it and see how it sounds amplified...but,i agree,it shouldn't buzz so much,even unplugged...(Be careful with "fret dress",though;i had a bad experience with one,recently..)If you were happy with your Edwards in the past,i think it shouldn't be a problem to get it back like you liked it..Bring it back!

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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2009, 04:28:42 PM »
All my guitars sound like that haha. I always assumed it was normal to expect a bit of buzz :\

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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2009, 04:32:31 PM »
All my guitars sound like that haha. I always assumed it was normal to expect a bit of buzz :\

Rattle, yes, buzz, no. Theres no reason to put up with it - you should only expect it if you drop your action below about 1mm :P

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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2009, 04:35:00 PM »
Right at the start you did say when you got it back it played beautifully and the buzz isnt amplified! and youve since adjusted the truss rod yourself!,sounds to me it needs more than 40 quid spending on it..
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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2009, 08:13:14 PM »
If it's only buzzing when you play E why not transpose everything to a different key or put a cappo on the first fret?

Joking aside, try to see the exact fret that the buzz comes from and then check with th edge of a steel rule to see if that fret is raised slightly, if they are exactly level it's doubtfult there would be buzzing as the relief and action would take the string away from the fret enough.  If they are exactly level then try changing your strings.  I've found sometimes that you can get a bad string that might of been bent slightly or damaged prior to install.  The tension hides the fault but can cause buzzing.

My bet would be that just the one fret needs dressing.  Nail file, wet and dry, masking tape and Autosol and I can get my frets level and shining like mirrors :D

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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2009, 09:00:38 PM »
Thanks Tom but I really can't find an odd fret... everything seems to be in order. I've returned the guitar to how it was set up when I got it back yesterday, and I plan on taking it back tomorrow to see if he can fix it up.
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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2009, 01:07:22 AM »
Its a shame when you pay good cash and are disappointed with the results.  If I were you I would go back and explain the problems your experiencing to the guy and see what he says.

Like others have said it might need a fret dress but a good tech should have told you that when he initially evaluated your guitar and asked you about your playing style, string brand preference etc.  I take it he did do that?

An alternative tech in the Birmingham area is Trevor Buck @ PMT - doesn't work for the store itself, he just has a workshop there.  He setup all my guitars (electric & acoustic) and has done for about 8 years - so that's about 17 guitars to date.

When he takes a guitar in for service he will evaluate it whilst your there, tell you whats wrong with it (if anything) and what needs doing to correct it.  He'll also give you a price and if your happy, then he'll book it in.

Hope you get a good result tomorrow. :)

FYI a fret dress/crown would be somewhere in the region of £80-90 so I'm pretty sure you didn't get one the price of your setup.
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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2009, 12:28:47 PM »
I know I didn't get a fret dress guys! The bloke didn't tell me if I needed one, he didn't even ask how I played. I just asked him to get rid of the fret buzz, and he quoted me £40 and proceeded to make it worse.
I'm about to go back and try to be nice to him... maybe something genuinely went wrong; the truss settled strangely? he knocked one of the bridge height adjusters down a bit far? he set it up with the maths but forgot to try it out before giving it back?
Either way I've asked 5 other people to play the guitar (not telling them I wasn't happy with it) and they all commented on the ridiculous fret buzz.
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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2009, 12:56:50 PM »
he knocked one of the bridge height adjusters down a bit far? he set it up with the maths but forgot to try it out before giving it back?

If he did he's not a very good tech!

I wonder if its not the frets at all but could be nut related.   

I say this because I had an acoustic that had a buzz on the e string that I chased for months, first thought it was the frets, then thought it was the bridge being too low.  In the end I found the string was  too low in the nut and was virtually sitting on the first fret.  Was my fault I'd changed from 13's to 12 and this particular guitar just didn't like it.

Another thing you could do is get a second opinion, ask another tech to have a look at it - without telling them whats wrong.  And see what they say - won't cost you anything.

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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2009, 02:27:51 PM »
All my guitars sound like that haha. I always assumed it was normal to expect a bit of buzz :\

Dude what are you playing? Not even my dirt cheap squires have any buzz!
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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2009, 02:55:25 PM »
Rattle, yes, buzz, no.

Whats the difference?

Dude what are you playing? Not even my dirt cheap squires have any buzz!

Epiphone LP Custom and a Pearl LP Custom. They both have it, the Pearl did after a setup but I just thought it was normal to have a bit so didnt bother with it haha. Maybe I should get it set up by someone else (though there only seems to be one tech guy in my area).

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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2009, 03:32:46 PM »
he knocked one of the bridge height adjusters down a bit far? he set it up with the maths but forgot to try it out before giving it back?

If he did he's not a very good tech!

I wonder if its not the frets at all but could be nut related.   



No no no
Wont be the nut causing buzz higher up the neck
The nut is no longer a factor past the first fret , other than a too high nut causing the feel of the neck to be wrong

Indy - hurry along to see the tech to see what can be done
All this discussion of various opinions is maybe clouding the issue and misleading as far as your guitar is concerned

I dont see that a neck angle issue is a factor as long as you can get the action right via the TOM bridge

Tech needs to be looking for a hump at the end of the neck, or unevenness in the fretting (testing 3 frets at a time)
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Re: Took my guitar for a pro setup
« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2009, 04:12:10 PM »
Rattle, yes, buzz, no.

Whats the difference?

Dude what are you playing? Not even my dirt cheap squires have any buzz!

Epiphone LP Custom and a Pearl LP Custom. They both have it, the Pearl did after a setup but I just thought it was normal to have a bit so didnt bother with it haha. Maybe I should get it set up by someone else (though there only seems to be one tech guy in my area).

I suppose I didnt use very clear language

Sometimes strings vibrate against and if severe choke out on the next fret

Sometimes, well, often really, the wide vibration right in the middle of the string (when fretted as well, think of it as a shorter string and look for the middle) bounces against the frets.

I was calling the former buzz and the latter rattle. You can get one without the other, they arent the same thing.