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Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« on: May 07, 2009, 02:50:46 PM »
I know there were previous topics on this but I thought I'd post a new one as models may have been released or opinions may have changed since the dates of those topics.

So it's basically another 'What one, should I, why, etc.' thread.

1. So I want some decent headphones that are good for recording/mixing.

2. And as I don't want to go all out and record my own music and become a full-blown musician or what not should I go for monitors?

I don't know much about them and only slightly understand why to have two sets of speakers - one to mix and one to hear them as anyone else would hear them?

Thanks for the help from anyone.

PS. I don't want to spend ridiculous amounts of cash but will if it's worth it. For headphones I'd probably go for £100 around about I don't know about speakers or monitors.
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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 02:54:37 PM »
Headphones: AKG K240

Monitors: Depends on $$$ and taste. I really like my KRK V6. Best would be to take some CDs you know very well and go to a shop to test different makes. If you can afford it, go for biamped active ones (separate amps for low and hi drivers).
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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2009, 03:00:14 PM »
Headphones: AKG K240

Monitors: Depends on $$$ and taste. I really like my KRK V6. Best would be to take some CDs you know very well and go to a shop to test different makes. If you can afford it, go for biamped active ones (separate amps for low and hi drivers).

I read up on that, the CD testing thing. What kind of CDs should I bring if I was going to try some out?

And I don't know about $$$ or taste since I'm a newcomer to them.
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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 03:00:33 PM »
Phones - senn HD25s

Monitors - You can spend 10s of thousands on one set of nearfields and a sub, but you really cant go wrong with adam A5s

Event do some great stuff for a lot less though.

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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 03:05:00 PM »
Headphones: AKG K240

Monitors: Depends on $$$ and taste. I really like my KRK V6. Best would be to take some CDs you know very well and go to a shop to test different makes. If you can afford it, go for biamped active ones (separate amps for low and hi drivers).

I read up on that, the CD testing thing. What kind of CDs should I bring if I was going to try some out?

And I don't know about $$$ or taste since I'm a newcomer to them.

Bring something that you know well and that represents the kind of stuff you wanna mainly do. So if for example you're into metal and you love Killswitch: Engage, bring Killswitch:Engage.
No point in testing monitors with classic if you wanna use them to do hardcore metal.

I would say 500 a pair is what you should spend to have decent quality, 500 a piece will give you something solid that you might wanna keep for long (I've had my KRKs since 1999 and I have the feeling they will always stay with me). Everything above that is real high end for connaisseurs or pros.
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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 03:13:24 PM »
I am a big fan of my Grado SR80 headphones. Probably not the must accurate (I think they have an upper mid emphasis?) but I think they sound awesome, really clear and just nice sounding. Only £80 as well.

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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 03:19:14 PM »
Headphones: AKG K240

Monitors: Depends on $$$ and taste. I really like my KRK V6. Best would be to take some CDs you know very well and go to a shop to test different makes. If you can afford it, go for biamped active ones (separate amps for low and hi drivers).

I read up on that, the CD testing thing. What kind of CDs should I bring if I was going to try some out?

And I don't know about $$$ or taste since I'm a newcomer to them.

Bring something that you know well and that represents the kind of stuff you wanna mainly do. So if for example you're into metal and you love Killswitch: Engage, bring Killswitch:Engage.
No point in testing monitors with classic if you wanna use them to do hardcore metal.

I would say 500 a pair is what you should spend to have decent quality, 500 a piece will give you something solid that you might wanna keep for long (I've had my KRKs since 1999 and I have the feeling they will always stay with me). Everything above that is real high end for connaisseurs or pros.

thats good advice and a reasonable assesment of the pricing trends in monitors.

I would argue though that if youre going past about 500 a pair, maybe even less, youre going to get diminishing returns not in the quality if the sound out of the monitors (in my limited experience that starts at about £1000 a pair) but because of your room.

And thats assuming you have a well set up listening position to begin with.

I assume you arent going to get any acoustic treatment, but the least you can do is set up a proper listening position. Putting the speakers in the best place and in the correct place relative to each other and your head is half the battle (if not more).

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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 03:54:21 PM »
The room is the first, and most important, element.

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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 04:47:44 PM »
Well, I can't really choose the room I'll be recording in unfortunately.
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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 04:54:39 PM »
Well, I can't really choose the room I'll be recording in unfortunately.

Few of us can. But you can place the speakers optimally and treat it.

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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 04:59:25 PM »
Probably, yeah.

But you'll need monitors too. Mixing on phones is a bad idea - they dont have a stereo field, theyre binaural. Think of the monitors as standing back and looking at the whole thing and phones as a magnifying glass to check detail with.

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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2009, 05:09:16 PM »
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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 05:11:37 PM »
Get the adams and dont look back or think twice.

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Re: Speakers, Monitors and Headphones
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2009, 06:08:30 PM »
Get the adams and dont look back or think twice.
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