A question for you sparkies & fizzicists

[gwEm]

Did you know that it's now illegal to make or import 100W lightbulbs in/into the UK.  Came through the other day.

WTF!? ridiculous. 60w makes me strain my eyes and gives me a headache. Its all about the dimmer switch in the bedroom.

[AndyR]

Fascists!!

(I'm not sure if that's strictly true, but it's what the hippies would've said when I was back at Uni...)(actually, it's probably the same bloody hippies that have decided on this cr@p!! :lol:)

And I was wondering earlier whether what we had here was a new market for Tim -

Bare Knuckle Lightbulbs - hand wired in the UK (like yer granny used to, etc)

Vintage - 60W
Vintage Hot - 100W

and for the true connoiseurs:
Vintage Fecking Useless - 40W or under

All come with choices of:

Pearl, Clear, or Daylight (Blue filter)
Bayonet or Screw fitting

But if it's illegal to make the ones I'd buy... I don't think I'll bother suggesting it :(

[MDV]

You forgot contemporary

- 200W Halogen

[AndyR]

You forgot contemporary

- 200W Halogen

Yeah I was wracking my brains, but I don't actually know enough about light bulbs, I just know wot I like - 100W, Clear... and I'm not gonna be able to get them ever again... :(

Who do I blame for this travesty? Is it "Europe" (that Hunter bloke, bet he's behind it :lol:), or our fine, fine leaders, or some other no-name-bar-steward or bar-stewardess?

I'm starting to feel as wound up as I did when the fecking smoking ban thing came in - sooner or later us silent majority types are gonna get fed up and start, er, I dunno, having strong words with someone...

[Will]

Didn't they invest a load of money into developement, nobody likes the new bulbs, so to get their money back they need to make us buy them?

Another for Tim: Handwound Double strip lights
:D

[38thBeatle]

Instead of a dimmer switch, you can wear sunglasses indoors. Hey presto, no nasty buzzing.

[JDC]

if you can all wait for 2025... LED bulbs will be powerful enough for home lighting then... according to wiki (I was really bored at the time!!!)

as someone who knows way too much on green stuff, apparently a quarter of your leccy bill is lighting, other good way to save the quids is Grade A or better fridge and freezers, preferably combined, those things are on 24/7!!!

and don't stick them near radiators if you can, and don't leave it stuffed with 2 year old food since it has to work harder

[Copperhead]

...... while America still exists .....

Wow. Just wow.

[Will]

Copperhead, I think his comment was fair in context.

I can understand why America doesn't want to join any of these Carbon emission treaty things, but while Europe has signed it, and the US is quite a big burner, then, are these cr@ppy energy saving lights going to do much?

[Copperhead]

Good luck with the carbon emission theory.  :D

Last time I checked, all life forms on the planet were carbon based.

Remember the ozone hoax? I live in the SW US where supposedly by now we should have been destroyed by direct solar ignition.
Oh there it is, page 26 in the paper. Ozone holes now are theorized to have been related to sun spots.
Wasn't R-12 after all. So now we have AC units that are less efficient, don't cool as well. All at a cost of billions, paid for by every one of us. Are they going to take back the R134a now? Nope.

This just in. Know what leaks more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than all the cars and power plants in the US and China combined?
Mature trees that have stopped growing. (Don't know if I believe this, but the illustration is that there are plenty of unprovable "theories" on both sides of the issue) That's right. Want to save the planet? Charge into the old growth forests and harvest the mature lumber. Plant new trees as a young growing tree is super efficient at taking carbon out of the atmosphere and turning it into wood.

Yet all these "green" companies want you to go "paperless" because they love the planet... bullshiteeeeeeee!!!
What takes more energy? Print 100000 sheets of paper on a printing press, or have 100000 customers fire up their home PC and inkjet printer and print one sheet......
As any good cop knows, follow the money.
It's all about transferring the cost to YOU and I.

The politics of environmentalism since the 1970's has always been about extracting money from the populance, a "hidden" tax on the sheeple.

In the 1970's, we were going into the next ice age because of the pollution of the plastics industry...

Wipe yourself with a spotted owl, attacks on the forest products industry are all BS and they get away with it because we let them.

Now we all hafta get battery powered cars. So we're going to plug them in and charge them at home with the electricity that's been 80% produced by burning fossil fuels.... 'cause here in Barackistan we can't build any more nuclear power plants.

But Iran can. And North Korea. And Syria.

We're going to build a gazillion windmills, even though every one of them we have now is subsidized because between the insane cost of construction and maintenance on them, they don't even come close to paying for themselves.

It all so much cr@p, and plenty of people are fed up with it. 18%+ unemployment magnifies it. Number one population segment for unemployment in the US is black males between the ages of 18 and 26. 30%+ by some reports. How's that hope and change working out for ya?

America is a young country. Borders change. Lots of people very upset, but you won't hear a peep of any of this on MSNBC....

[Plexi Ken]

[snip]...but you won't hear a peep of any of this on MSNBC....[/snip]

That's because all the folks with tinfoil hats watch Fox News  :P

[Will]

LOL at the rant :D
You must have missed the point where I said I understand why America hasn't signed to the Kyoto (I think?) stuff. I do agree with most, if not all of your points

[Copperhead]

LOL

Not ranting or angry at all. Not remotely an US vs THEM thing.

The point is, just because a govt. or a "world" committee or org. says something is true.... I mean they line up all their scientists, buy off the media heads, and how hard is it to railroad all this garbage through? Are all sides of an issue presented fairly? Throw in a little nationalism, patriotic pride; WE are BETTER than THEY are because WE made this law...
Hello, didn't this happen last century?

I don't give a rat about MSNBC or FOX or any of them, I don't even own a television. By choice. It's all part of the deal, you sit in front of the box eight hours a day, you're being programmed, influenced and believing in rubbish you wouldn't give the time of day to if presented to you in the flesh, all in the name of "entertainment". There is no news media in this country, it's all part of the entertainment industry. Pure fantasy.

We think we're so much smarter, we're the cleverest generation ever because we have TECHNOLOGY.
Hahahhahaha no one knows how to think anymore.
Read some of the writings of the true Fathers of the American Revolution. The 250 or so men who wrote the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights... Amazing that they could form complete sentences without being raised on educational TV, right?

So in American schools we teach revisionist history and mention 3 or 4 names of the Revolutionary period.
No children today in America have ever heard about Benjamin Rush, or Thomas Paine for example, nor have they ever read Common Sense....
Brilliant men and there are of course many many others, but we know everything today because we have the internet....

I collect and buy and sell antique military firearms. I have a rifle that was mass produced in the late 1800's, the Springfield Trapdoor rifle. Here is a weapon that can shoot very accurately, nearly a mile. The precision of the manufacture is amazing. They tested random samples off the assembly line daily. These rifles are still used in black powder competition today. Designed, mass produced, still shooting over 120 years later without computers or even electricity for that matter.

We're so smart. Cow farts are killing the planet.... that's a good one.

Wake up. Don't lie down and let the govt. go through your pockets and put you in fetters. Put up a fight and make some noise at least.

[AndyR]

Like the way you think Copperhead... I'm roughly in the same space as you :D

I tend to give governments a little more leeway though (I don't let them off the hook, mind you) - I regard them more as a symptom than a cause. It's the "vocal minorities" that p1ss me off-  the ones that "steer" what the media thinks it ought to say and what govts think they ought to do... and the cr@p they're talking up is often not based entirely on knowledge, but on hearsay they've accpeted without thinking...

In many ways, I think that none of us is innocent of this. It seems to be human nature to grasp at a half-understood thing we overheard that supports our own particular prejudice, and then to cram it down some other poor b@stards throat...

Er, I'm looking at why I started this thread  :oops: - I was looking for some sort of "scientific" support, half-baked or otherwise, for the way that I want the light operated in our office kitchen :lol:

[Copperhead]

I'm roughly in the same space as you :D

Imagine that. A different culture, a continent and an ocean apart, and we can agree on something! And me being a filthy American.  :lol:

I think you should get a bank of massive amplifiers and light your office from a row of Hotplates set on "LOAD"  :D