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So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« on: September 19, 2009, 11:29:45 AM »
... I still managed to buy another feckin geetar yesterday  :lol:

A new strat to do the strat-stylings what my other strats won't do for me 8)

I'm not making any potentially rash statements along the lines of "I've got everything I need now", but I can say that this guitar fills a "Hole" in the armoury that has been there for a couple of years, ever since I got my beloved Fiesta Red strat, Edith.

I can even admit that my last two purchases, at least, while valid in their own right (a tele and an SG), were kind of "compensatory" purchases - because, on that particular day, I couldn't find the guitar that would eventually fill this hole...

I wasn't expecting it to happen yesterday, but there she was, she played right, and we were able to strike a deal I was happy with...

The pics just about do her justice. It's funny, this one don't look very pretty on a stand (compared to my other guitars) but she looks DAMN GOOD when you're playing her. And she sounds, well, fabulous...

I'm afraid I'm not allowed out, on my own, with my wallet, for a few weeks now... but "that's alright I still got my guitar" :lol:
« Last Edit: September 19, 2009, 11:33:25 AM by AndyR »
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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2009, 11:41:21 AM »
Looks great, Andy! Is that one of the Road worn 60s Strats?
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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2009, 11:57:00 AM »
Yeah, c'mon Andy man, more info!

What does this one do that, er, Bowman doesn't?
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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 12:48:49 PM »
Sorry, chaps, too busy a-twangin' :lol:

Yep, it's a Road Worn. I tried the 50s tele when they first arrived - stunning player but I already had several teles, and price-wise it was too rich as far as I was concerned. I've only seen one other RW 60s strat in the flesh before, it was in a window display, and it looked "unpretty" enough for me to "not ask to try it" - I knew that if I tried one, and it was as good as that tele felt, then we'd possibly be looking at a purchase whether I was happy about the price or not...

When I saw one yesterday, I felt strong enough to try it and walk away if I thought it was too much.

If asked to debate it, I'm still in the "undecided" camp over relicking and all - I've no particularly strong feelings against it, but it's "probably not my personal cup of tea..."

So why on earth have I got a relicked guitar??! It's cos it really doesn't seem to matter with this particular guitar. I had to get over the relicking in order to buy it, obviously, and I did...

I've had it less than 24 hours, in fact I probably first plugged it in in the shop about this time yesterday, and in that time it's turned into "my guitar". I've done my usual "convert to master tone", "put extra springs in and drop the bridge flat" (and yeah Philly, I heard the tonal change this time :D), "string-it/set-it-up with 11s", and I've also started bri-waxing the bare neck. But even without these little personalisations, she's already mine - she'd decided in the shop, but I only really got it this morning... And so it don't matter how the "knocks" got there, I'm playing her now - and she looks extremely "rocknroll" in the mirror! :D

What does it do that Edith don't?

- Looks. It looks like my old JV used to before I stripped it. Tall, thin, with a tailcoat, sometimes a top hat (this was before Slash appeared - the thief!!), and a rosewood/sunburst strat, is what ole Angus looked like for 100-odd gigs in the 80s... This guitar is also what I wanted my JV to look like at the time but it wouldn't no matter what I did in gigs (bashed :lol:).  I deliberately avoided the sunburst when I got Edith (she's Fender Japan, remember, and she had two friends in sunburst in the shop), because "that's the colour I had before... and i stripped it..." but I've realised since then, that for nostalgia purposes, I did kinda need a sunburst again :roll:

- Sound. Edith is slightly warmer and thicker accoustically - I picked her from among many that day for that very reason. I think it might be one of the reasons I don't find Irish Tours quite as bright and trebly as others do, I get a nice chewy tone out of her (I think the same thing might have happened with my new SG and Riff Raffs).

Anyway, amongst other sounds, you'll have read me citing "Steve Gaines's Lynyrd Skynyrd sound" as something I'd like to get my hands on - got it now in spades :D

It's hard to describe, but this one is a "lighter" possibly more "woody" sounding strat accoustically. They both resonate enough, but they're different. Luckily it turns out they complement each other - Edith doesn't make the new one sound thin and scratchy, and the new one doesn't make Edith sound muddy (either might happen to someone else using them, but they are both fab to my ears...)

Something has really surprised me. Strangely, this is the first guitar I've got (singles, humbuckers) that actually makes any sense through the Marshall Plexi models on my VOX Tonelab (not tried the POD XT, but I was never that fond of the plexi on there neither) - everything else tends to get played through JTM45 types, or AC30, possibly Fenders, and possibly late 70s/early 80s M/V Marshall... but this little girl makes the plexi model sound good.

Obvously, it's really early days on this one, but I'm extremely happy with it so far (even if the nut does need some attention/replacing :lol:)
« Last Edit: September 19, 2009, 12:53:59 PM by AndyR »
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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 12:59:52 PM »
Another epic post!  :lol:

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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 01:15:38 PM »
Ooh, i've played one too and found it very nice, just couldn't get past the relicing.
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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 03:39:37 PM »
Sounds awesome! I played a few of the Road Worn guitars at the start of the year when they first came out, I played the 50s teles, 50s and 60s Strats and found them to be very nice instruments, especially the 50s teles and 60s strats. The only thing holding me back from buying one is that I would have to spend a fair bit on upgrades to get it to how I wanted it. I would have to change out the tuners, I'm not a big fan of slotted head ones, and I wasn't entirely convinced by the Tex Mex pickups either. I would probably swap them out for some ITs or Apaches.

I really liked the neck's on the Road Worn guitars though, they have a huge chunk of the finish taken off which makes it really smooth to play and really gives it that played in feel.

Glad you are hpayy with your purchase, from the pics it looks like a really nice Strat!

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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2009, 03:43:51 PM »
Good to see the old self control didn't let you down Andy.
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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2009, 03:47:07 PM »
I really want that mug of coffee!!!

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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2009, 04:00:24 PM »
Those silver rizlas are far too fiddly! Nice looking guitar though, bit too "normal" for a strat though for me :)

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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2009, 04:49:09 PM »
Looks good!!

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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2009, 05:12:59 PM »
I'd forgotten the coffee and fags were in the picture!! :lol: (would've looked better even with the coffee pot as well) I must admit I could do with a coffee now, but I've had my caffeine for the day.

The only thing holding me back from buying one is that I would have to spend a fair bit on upgrades to get it to how I wanted it. I would have to change out the tuners, I'm not a big fan of slotted head ones, and I wasn't entirely convinced by the Tex Mex pickups either. I would probably swap them out for some ITs or Apaches.

We're on opposite sides of the fence :D - I much prefer the slotted heads.

On the pickups front, I'm very surprised by these Tex Mex jobbies. They were "ok" while I was testing it in the shop.. but I was thinking, hmm... BKP??

And having seen the insides (to do the tone pot rewiring), they look very cheap and fragile. But once I put my 11s on, screwed down the bridge, adjusted the action, etc... I started to adjust the pickups exactly how I would a set of BKPs... and bugger me, these pickups sound good! :lol:

They're not as powerful as ITs, and they are loads clearer than Texas Specials. I don't think they respond as well as BKPs do to volume and tone control fiddling, but they'll do for the moment (which is a blessed relief to my wallet :lol:).

My "original plan" of a year or so has been to get a sunburst strat of some description, move the ITs in there, then stick Mother's Milks or possibly Apaches in the Fiesta Red. The "in development" 62's added to the possibilities...

Now I've got this guitar, it feels fairly obvious that the ITs probably ought to stay where they are, and this guitar is the one that gets the lower-powered woody/transparent strat treatment - that way guitars and pickups will be playing to their strengths.

Those silver rizlas are far too fiddly!  :)

I prefer the taste, and other people can't handle rolling their "own" with, er "mine" :lol:

Good to see the old self control didn't let you down Andy.

Don't go near these Road Worns!!! I suspect that your tastes in strat and tele "mojo" might put you in the same dangerous position as me. The right one of these could easily be "good enough" to argue it's way through any perceived shortcomings (aesthetic or financial :lol:)
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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2009, 05:36:39 PM »
I much prefer the slotted heads.

Me too - they look so much neater.
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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2009, 07:37:57 PM »
By slotted heads you mean the small 50's headstock? If so, I'm on +1! Hate the big CBS headstock!

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Re: So, I have no GAS, but... (strat NGD content)
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2009, 07:42:53 PM »
its the tuners fernando.

and i love the big 70's headstock - as long as its on 70's strats