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dave_mc

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #75 on: October 23, 2009, 09:41:58 PM »
yeah, definitely. it definitely helps to describe why things are the way they are here, anyway.

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2009, 08:53:14 PM »
I am in the middle of Cormac McCarthy's "The Road". I am enjoying it a great deal.
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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2009, 11:03:19 PM »
I don't buy the argument about religious conflicts actually boiling down to sociopolitical (good word, Mark!  :wink: ) issues.  That's all far too rational.  Those issues may indeed underlie the conflicts, but the people involved believe they're about religion - therefore they are about religion.   And there's nothing rational about religion.

people surely use to believe in the most improbable things, but i wouldn't say that if a bunch of hooligans beat themselves to death is about soccer. they would do it anyway, even if soccer didn't exist at all. they would surely fight for something else. gardening, for example...
seriously, it's surely easier to see someone as an enemy if he has got different religious beliefs (and a completely different way of life), but usually wars aren't waged by the mob, but by rational people for rational reasons. money, mostly...

nowadays the hate for muslims is very common and widespread in the western world... at least in italian news israeli are alway pictured as western looking guys with european traits, and palestinians like stereotypical "arabs"... talking about the iraqi journalist who trew his shoes to G.W.Bush, italian TV underlined the fact that many arabs around the world "offered him their daughters to celebrate his liberation", and showed totally off-topic footage of fat old women in burqas dancing in squalid and filthy houses. its much easier to feel sympathy for someone that looks and behaves like you, even if your religion taught you that his ancestors actually killed your god!
THIS is the way propaganda works... "das sturmer", "la difesa della razza" and other racist publications in the 30s did exactly the same with jews.

and i see something very rational on the background.
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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #78 on: October 27, 2009, 03:22:27 AM »
Subcultre:The Meaning of Style... frigging uni reading  :x

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #79 on: October 27, 2009, 08:51:04 AM »
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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2009, 02:09:55 PM »
Skene's elements of yacht design....... because I don't know how to build boats (yet..... well I sort of do, but not well enough).

Having another bash at The Use Of Reason, but it's really hard work.  Written by an old teacher in the 60's so the language is very strange. I recognise all the words, just not in the order that they're written.
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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #81 on: October 27, 2009, 02:53:27 PM »
I'm rereading The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov. An extraordinarily original book that stretches the imagination all over the place, plus it gives a very different slant on the much discussed topic of religion.

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #82 on: October 27, 2009, 03:05:10 PM »


They were both wrong.

About QM anyway.

It should be a tag team deathmatch debate that can have a meaningfull outcome

Heisenberg and Schrodinger Vs Einstien and Bohr.

No ones sure if heisenberg is there or where hes going till he gains enough energy too fast for you to see to tunnel through bohrs electrostatics and destroy is planetary model of the atom with his electron delocalistation. Schrodingers probability distribution wave for a bound state and einstiens underlying determinism battle it out until the judges, the Copenhagen Interpretation, intervene and declare that indeterminacy rules, so einstien and shrodinger each both won and lost unless they look at each other.

Which of course makes shrodinger the defacto winner.
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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #83 on: October 27, 2009, 05:08:56 PM »
plus he has/had (he's not sure) a cat, which puts him over the edge.

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #84 on: October 27, 2009, 07:44:41 PM »
I'm rereading The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov. An extraordinarily original book that stretches the imagination all over the place, plus it gives a very different slant on the much discussed topic of religion.

Great book.  I don't think it has anything to do with religion though although one of the leading characters is satan.

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #85 on: October 27, 2009, 11:28:02 PM »
got a couple of new Alan Moore's.  ...a conversation with Bill Baker   and 25,000 years of Erotic Freedom.  he really is a fascinating man! 
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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #86 on: October 27, 2009, 11:51:28 PM »


Great book.  I don't think it has anything to do with religion though although one of the leading characters is satan.

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It also features Yeshua Ha-Nozri (Jesus Christ), Pontius Pilate, Judas from Kiriath (Judas Iscariat), Mathew the disciple etc. I agree the main thrust of the book is not religious, but to say it has nothing to do with it I find baffling.

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2009, 07:21:04 AM »
Yes, it features religious characters, but does that necessarily mean it's about religion?  Imo, the story isn't at all.

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2009, 12:33:40 PM »
Stephen King - Dream Catcher

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Re: What Books Are We Reading?
« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2009, 12:43:29 PM »
Yes, but I said it gives a different slant on religion not that this was the subject. Surely the fact that the devil is one of the main characters and is not despicable fulfills this criterion.