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TwilightOdyssey

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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2005, 01:21:35 AM »
Check it out, JP:



NO volume control, NO tone control. When you plug in the guitar, it's on all the time, full volume.

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2005, 02:23:33 AM »
I guess it'd be possible, and I wouldn't need new pots... How do I do that? I have to unwire the switch from the pots, and wire the lug which was previously connected to the controls directly to the jack? Is it ok to have 2 hot wires connected to the jack?

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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2005, 12:23:52 PM »
Coming in late on this - how many pickups?
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2005, 12:27:28 PM »
Well right now there are 3 pickups in the guitar, and they all are affected by the volume/tone/midboost controls. I want to make the bridge pickup bypass this basically, but still have its switch.

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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2005, 04:15:41 PM »
how did ye get on Pierre?

The pickup to jack option sounds cool, gonna keep that in mind for my next project :P
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2005, 05:11:21 PM »
I haven't done it yet. I'm waiting to get more details on the wiring and whether it's safe, but I can't find any info on this type of connections.

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2005, 06:11:31 PM »
Wow... so ok I tried it...Basically it's now wired directly the output. No controls at all for the MM... and I was expecting a heavy metal pickup but, I find it lacks output. It seems less powerful than how it was with all the electronics. There also seems to be less harmonics, but the sound has more character, more tightness.
Edit: I grounded the MM onto the midboost pot. There's another wire there, connected with it. When I turn down the midboost, the pickup shuts, but there's very little effects on the tone until I almost have it all the way down. Is that sucking tone?
Edit 2: it's VERY bassy and the controls on the POD seem to have less effects than before...

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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2005, 07:55:12 PM »
well i don't know whats going on but here's my input.

I have a MM with double allen head poles and I find this thing nearing my EMG 81 in output and has comparable harmonic content, slightly less, but the sound better and fuller although not quite as loud ( bearing in mind that the 81 is active!!)  It has VERY tight bass, almost too tight for some things, and a very smooth mid output, that I think you might be perseving as not very high output as the PU is not to mid orientated.

The Fullshred if I remember correctly is VERY mid orientated and coupled with the fact that you have a mid boost, then to me it sounds as though you are just used to the fact of having tons of mids which can make a PU sound very heavy.

Tim and co. can correct me here but to my knowledge having alot of mid presence in a PU can make it sound louder than it might be and also the mid spike in your rig would start to overdrive an amp quite easily.

Anyway thats just my Idea.  I wasn't sure what to expect when I got my MM, and to be quite honest, I wasn't that blown away by it when I first plugged it in (it was the first aftermarket PU id bought and I didn't have a huge experience with different guitars so I didn't know what I was listening for).  

BUT after a while, you figure out how to get the best out of it.... and then you love it.

But as I said, it is comparable to an EMG 81, but with more bass and highs and less mid.  but alot more dynamic and nowhere near as mushy.

If you think that it is based on Zakk who uses EMG 81's then its gotta be in that ballpark.  why don't you listen to Tims MM clip on the players are of Miracl Man and then see if yours sounds similar?


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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2005, 08:07:19 PM »
I listened to a whole lot of these. In each clips, it sounded either heavier (the Ozzmosis clips) or just tighter and better (Ben's clips).
That would make sense about the mids. Maybe putting this pickup in a basswood guitar isn't the best thing then? My guitar has a pretty warm sound I found but doesn't favor the mids that much (midboost makes up for it).
Meanwhile I'll just always use the Boss SD1 as a boost before I do more mods. I'll try a Duncan Custom and maybe make a hybrid with the Fullshred. Maybe I'll also put a row of Allen keys on the bass side of the pickup.

Maybe I just need a JCM800?  :P
I'm sure I'd be more happy once I retube the Laney and find my tone with it. So far I just use the POD and it kicks ass, but maybe it's just not as good. Every guitar I try on every other amp seems to get pinch harmonics much easier, and more harmonics too for some reasons.
Thanks for the comment!

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2005, 09:20:17 PM »
yAH, I UNDERSTOOD BEN
Well how to do that?
i guess it has a lot of microphonics right or not?
how can you compare that with a 1 volume pot wired guitar?
please compare the highs, middles, bass and output please.
with distortion, OF COURSE.
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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2005, 09:29:44 PM »
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yAH, I UNDERSTOOD BEN
Well how to do that?

I just wired the pickup directly to the jack. 2 wires, butt simple.

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i guess it has a lot of microphonics right or not?

Nope, you just can't turn it off from the guitar; you have to put the amp on standby.

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how can you compare that with a 1 volume pot wired guitar?
please compare the highs, middles, bass and output please.
with distortion, OF COURSE.
J.P

I think that the sound is a bit richer and has more dynamics.

It's a weird way to go, I admit, but I like it. Plus, it drives friends crazy when they plug in and look for a volume control that's not there! LOL

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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2005, 02:17:44 AM »
thanks guys
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2005, 10:40:40 AM »
well my MM is in an all maple guitar which isn't a mid heavy guitar at all.  I put it through an sd-1 into my Vox valvetronix and it sounds brilliant, effortlessly powerfull and doesn't sound pushed.
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2005, 12:10:56 PM »
I have a MM set in a Warmoth PRS clone and they sound excellent.  Before that I had them in a Korean Explorer (Richwood), where they still sounded great.

can you measure the resistance to make sure there is no problem on them?
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2005, 01:18:27 PM »
I have no voltmeter. I need one though it'd seem. I can't really afford one at the minute. I'll try if I can borrow one anywhere.