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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 05:49:53 PM »
Hooked on this riff at the moment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBZQ4kEI5v4
A bit over processed, but has that 80s tone.

Great hair metal! Makes me think of Def Leppard. And the lyrics are just ace!!!  :D
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2009, 05:49:58 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUURKSjacs&feature=related



YOu get the full effect on this version....
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2009, 06:57:35 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUURKSjacs&feature=related



YOu get the full effect on this version....

Very professional performance IMO.
I think he should have plugged his guitar in though

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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2009, 11:41:59 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUURKSjacs&feature=related



YOu get the full effect on this version....

Very professional performance IMO.
I think he should have plugged his guitar in though

Nah... with a hair-do like that, you don't need to plug in your guitar to produce the "full effect" :lol:

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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2009, 01:31:21 PM »
Wines mature with age whereas cheese like this just gets smellier.
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2009, 09:11:06 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUURKSjacs&feature=related



YOu get the full effect on this version....

Very professional performance IMO.
I think he should have plugged his guitar in though

Nah... with a hair-do like that, you don't need to plug in your guitar to produce the "full effect" :lol:

EDIT: I can't believe I've watched Cutting Crew twice in less than a week... (OK I switched it off pretty quick both times)

That gotta be the top of play back. As far as I can see none of them have their guitars plugged in  :D

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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2009, 11:14:59 PM »


That gotta be the top of play back. As far as I can see none of them have their guitars plugged in  :D

And Andy. You might as well admit it. You're secretly being drawn back into the 80's by Cutting Crew and now you're hooked!

Yeah they are lip synching/miming on the pop programme - but I loved this song back in the 80s and it still sounds good to me now
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 08:29:21 AM »
I have to admit I have sneaking regard for the song - and the performance even. It is a superb piece of songwriting craftsmanship...

but there's something about it that turns me off as well

I'm not sure what it is, but I think it might be something like the reaction that Paul McCartney's "Long and Winding Road" generates. I have loved that song ever since I first heard/learnt it - I think it's one of the best things he's ever written (I suspect he does too)... but I've yet to come across anyone who doesn't dismiss it as maudlin, wailing, whining, dross :lol:
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2009, 10:22:31 AM »
I have to admit I have sneaking regard for the song - and the performance even. It is a superb piece of songwriting craftsmanship...

but there's something about it that turns me off as well

I'm not sure what it is, but I think it might be something like the reaction that Paul McCartney's "Long and Winding Road" generates. I have loved that song ever since I first heard/learnt it - I think it's one of the best things he's ever written (I suspect he does too)... but I've yet to come across anyone who doesn't dismiss it as maudlin, wailing, whining, dross :lol:

I like "Long and Winding Road". It's a great moody ballad. The lyrics might be a bit too much, but so they are in "I Just Died in Your Arms Tonight". I don't tend to focus too much on lyrics because mostly they so repetitive and unoriginal (almost always about love). 
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2009, 10:23:28 AM »
I'm not sure what it is, but I think it might be something like the reaction that Paul McCartney's "Long and Winding Road" generates. I have loved that song ever since I first heard/learnt it - I think it's one of the best things he's ever written (I suspect he does too)... but I've yet to come across anyone who doesn't dismiss it as maudlin, wailing, whining, dross :lol:

A friend of mine is a huge Beatles fan, he even likes McCartney's solo stuff (which I have great fun dismissing as "sugary bilge").  But.... he hates "The Long And Winding Road".  So I guess that backs up your statement.  :lol:

Isn't there a story that it was originally quite a simple, unembellished recording but then Phil Spector came along and added orchestras and heavenly choirs - to McCartney's dismay?  I never understood why he couldn't just refuse to have that version released.... unless Phil pulled a gun on him.  :wink:

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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2009, 01:33:24 PM »
Isn't there a story that it was originally quite a simple, unembellished recording but then Phil Spector came along and added orchestras and heavenly choirs - to McCartney's dismay?  I never understood why he couldn't just refuse to have that version released.... unless Phil pulled a gun on him.  :wink:

No, it was John Lennon... and Phil Spector. The latter just did what he was asked to do.

McCartney regarded it as a song to farm out to another artist perhaps - he and Lennon originally intended to be song-writers rather than what they turned into, and McCartney could see the "end" coming, and this song might be something for the future. The recording of Long and Winding was actually a demo with a good lead vocal and a passable piano on it - and was part of what was left over from the "live" project they aborted before they got George Martin back to do Abbey Road.

If the song had been regarded as a "Beatles track", even a few months earlier - they might have used the take, but he would certainly have replaced the utterly atrocious bass-line played by Lennon (McCartney played piano and sang the vocal live). It's hesitant and not even the right chords in places. I don't know why Spector didn't remove it further than he did - maybe it wasn't possible to cover it any further in strings without another bass-part. But why didn't they get a session man, or even the Beatles bassist in to record another bass part?? Perhaps Lennon/Spector didn't even notice it was bad. There are also theories that Lennon was scr@pping around for enough material, as fast as possible, to cobble together a Beatles album.

Anyway, after the last album Abbey Road, Mr Lennon went off and took things into his own hands, apparently without consulting anyone else. After previously telling George M to his face that "we don't want none of your f***ing trickery" on the "live" project (If I was Mr Martin, I might have been tempted to tell them to shove it when they came to him for Abbey Road after that :lol:), he then proceeded to draft in Phil Spector to "produce" a Beatles album by covering the live demos with, er, icky stuff.

When McCartney heard the recordings, particularly Long and Winding, I understand, which he was already regarding as non-beatles, and then he discovered that he couldn't stop the release of what we all know and love/hate as "Let it Be", he walked straight out of the studio to the waiting press, announced "I've left the Beatles", and walked away.

I don't know why he couldn't stop the issue of Let it Be, maybe he could have done, but I think it was more the straw that broke the camel's back.  All sorts of weird and non-business like sh1t had been going down for months leading up to it.

Have you ever seen footage of the "live" project rehearsals? There's open animosity/hatred from Harrison while McCartney seems to be trying to get everyone to play together. I suspect that, regardless of the sense of it, Harrison at that time would have been voting "what does that c*nt want? I'll vote the opposite..." on everything.

McCartney wanted the Eastman family to manage them and their money (which was well out of hand by then) - I understand he was out-voted on that because they were his in-laws. Fair point, I reckon, but I believe he was utterly horrified that the rest of them couldn't even see that they needed actual business folk to take charge of the business.

And, er, around that time, John Lennon called an emergency band meeting... just to announce to them all that he was the Messiah!! :lol:

I haven't heard the "stripped down" Let it Be that was released a few years back now, I'm not even sure I want to, but it would be interesting to hear it.
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2009, 01:51:00 PM »
Have you ever seen footage of the "live" project rehearsals? There's open animosity/hatred from Harrison while McCartney seems to be trying to get everyone to play together. I suspect that, regardless of the sense of it, Harrison at that time would have been voting "what does that c*nt want? I'll vote the opposite..." on everything.

Towards McCartney specifically, or everyone?  I think I've seen bits of that footage, but I'm not the biggest Beatles fan so I never really give it my full attention!  :lol:

It's interesting that McCartney seems to have successfully maintained a "nice guy" image over the years, and I expect essentially he is, but he's always struck me as quite arrogant and egocentric (in a nice guy sort of way, I suppose  :wink: ).  And Lennon seemed like a snidey smartarse who wouldn't be particularly considerate towards anyone else.  I'm not surprised Harrison got pissed off eventually. 
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2009, 02:22:18 PM »
I presume this is the stripped down version in question.
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2009, 02:48:35 PM »
Yes that is the version. None of the existing versions were ever supposed to be "the one" but Spector just used what he was given. Some have said that John's bass playing was deliberately bad, I prefer to think that it wasn't, it was just poor because of lack of interest/practice. Nevertheless I quite like the song-it could be interpreted as being directed to John -something that Paul couldn't have said to John given the atmosphere in the band but who knows. I have friends who have worked with Paul-some say he is very difficult but most say he is fine-demanding but reasonably pleasant-certainly no worse than other ego obsessed celebs.
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Re: I love this 80's song
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2009, 03:19:45 PM »
I have to admit, Philly, that I most identify with McCartney - I come across as arrogant and egocentric as well, but I'm actually driven by the "project" and the bigger picture. I can see that in him. He knows how to do what he does, and how to achieve certain sounds. He also knows there might be better ways, but he is kind of expecting people to be listening to the overall picture and thinking and being pro-active in coming up with input that actually fits.

When it's your piece of music (rather than a band composition), it means you need people to play a certain way to achieve the effect in your head. If you can play all the instruments, you even know what the part is that you want.

Last band I tried really hard to let the rest of them "create" within the confines of my songs (they wouldn't get off their @rses to bring anything of their own to the party) songs got damaged just for the sake of changing things, bassists trying to turn ballads into grooves, etc... and I let them do it because I thought it was right or would maybe encourage them - it was utterly soul destroying, and I'd still get snide comments and all the bullsh1t (a la Harrison! :lol:)

So that's McCartney out of the way - except I'd LOVE to work with him! I like demanding, I'm demanding when it comes to generating music.  :lol: To make music that sounds relaxed, and spontaneous, the musicians involved have to work very hard and be very focussed - yeah have a few beers as well, and enjoy it, but to create "good stuff" you gotta work at it and be business like. If McCartney asked me to play a certain riff, I'd be playing it like he asked before I suggested anything else, and I know if I asked him to play a certain way, he'd play that first before suggesting something else. Also, I kinda think he'd be at the session to make music, not sit around smoking/drinking and talking about the football or whatever :lol:

Lennon I think was basically a decent chap but thoroughly confused by then - I agree with 38th, I like to think he just wasn't putting the effort in on that track - it was probably a "rehearsal" anyway!

Harrison, at the time, sounds like an utter sh1t as far as I'm concerned - I'd hate to have worked with Mr Harrison of the late 60s early 70s. He's the guy who tore junior engineers off a strip with "I'm a f***ing beatle, you don't talk to a f***ing beatle like that" when they were trying to do their job to get a take set up. He's the guy who hit the roof and left the band during the white album because Yoko ate one of his chocolate digestives without asking!

But on the other hand look at what they'd all been through - we'd all be a bit crazy if we'd done what they had in the space of 8 or 9 years :lol:

EDIT: What was this thread about again?? :lol:
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