Author Topic: orville MIJ anyone? (Read 21212 times)

Johnny Mac · « **Reply #15 on:** November 15, 2005, 05:41:25 PM »

Look at this baby! http://www.espguitars.co.jp/navigator/index.html

Some Warpigs in this would be cool!

Is 399 yen £1,930???

big steve · « **Reply #16 on:** November 15, 2005, 05:46:32 PM »

willo, i got the guitar from ebay. a bit of a risk? well... yeah

AFAIK, all the well known 80s/90s MIJ guitars (greco, tokai, orville, others) were made in th Fuji Gakken factory.

indysmith · « **Reply #17 on:** November 15, 2005, 05:53:13 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Mac

Is 399 yen £1,930???

399 yen is £1.93 :?

Johnny Mac · « **Reply #18 on:** November 15, 2005, 06:03:00 PM »

Quote from: indysmith

Quote from: Johnny Mac
Is 399 yen £1,930???

399 yen is £1.93 :?

:? :? Well thats a cheap LP!

Ratrod · « **Reply #19 on:** November 15, 2005, 07:53:23 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Mac

Look at this baby! http://www.espguitars.co.jp/navigator/index.html

Some Warpigs in this would be cool!

Is 399 yen £1,930???

Thanks for that link. I'm drooling over this:

dave_mc · « **Reply #20 on:** November 16, 2005, 11:32:10 AM »

Quote from: Ratrod

Thanks for that link. I'm drooling over this:

you know, it's really surprising that gibson sued guys like esp, with original models like that being made by them... :roll: :twisted:

Ratrod · « **Reply #21 on:** November 16, 2005, 01:30:09 PM »

If Gibson made them like that for a decent price, there would be no reason to make copies.

willo · « **Reply #22 on:** November 16, 2005, 01:38:47 PM »

I know this is heading completely off topic - and I'm looking forward to seeing your Orville, steve

- but I can't work out how to convert the Yen prices to pounds on that ESP website...either it comes out really cheap, like £1.93, or at the same price, if not more than, a normal Gibson, i.e. £1,930. Am i right in saying that the ESP's cost around £2000?

Bob Johnson · « **Reply #23 on:** November 16, 2005, 02:18:16 PM »

just put "exchange rate calculator" into Google and you'll have a shed load of them.

willo · « **Reply #24 on:** November 16, 2005, 02:23:53 PM »

Quote from: Bob Johnson

just put "exchange rate calculator" into Google and you'll have a shed load of them.

yeah, ive been doing that....the thing thats confusing me is where the '.' is present in the price - and if it is substitutable for a ',' - in other words, is 399.000 Yen the same as 399,000 Yen?

Bob Johnson · « **Reply #25 on:** November 16, 2005, 02:29:57 PM »

I see what you mean. It's got to be £1930 then hasn't it?

willo · « **Reply #26 on:** November 16, 2005, 02:34:59 PM »

Quote from: Bob Johnson

I see what you mean. It's got to be £1930 then hasn't it?

I guess so! :o

dave_mc · « **Reply #27 on:** November 16, 2005, 03:09:36 PM »

Quote from: Ratrod

If Gibson made them like that for a decent price, there would be no reason to make copies.

i know, i'm not defending gibson (i was pissed when they sued prs)

chrisola · « **Reply #28 on:** November 16, 2005, 03:17:32 PM »

www.xe.com for currency stuff.

ESPs are pretty high end and expensive...

also they may not ship outside Japan... theres no laws in japan concerning 'copying' designs, hence they can rip off gibsons designs, and sell a better product (well, allegedly), for cheaper (in the old days) to the same market(which is how all the law suits came about afaik).

Law suits mean = cant do this outside japan anymore, hence the UK\USA esp catalogues are a fair bit smaller than the Japan one!

xlr8 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 16, 2005, 03:58:52 PM »

'Orville' and 'Orville by Gibson' are both made in Japan to very high standards, the difference being that 'Orville' has Japanese electrical components and 'Orville by Gibson' has the very same American electrical components as their US counterparts.

Navigators are the very best of ESPs range and are made to a quality that that Gibsons custom shop can only dream of. £2000 for a Navigator is cheap.