Author Topic: OK Tim, how far out is this? (Read 13359 times)

HJM · « **on:** April 28, 2005, 09:49:41 AM »

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Pickups:_Parts/Humbucker_Pickup_Parts.html

Tim · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2005, 10:11:42 AM »

They're exactly the same parts as Allparts sell, same bobbins, baseplate , the lot. They're OK and better thab alot that's out there but nothing like the vintage correct parts we're now making.
The new baseplate we've tooled up for is the most accurate recreation of an original PAF baseplate in the world, right down to the tooling marks and grain of the nickel silver.They're better than the Gibson reissue 57s and BBs, and way better than the SD Antiquities.
We're having butyrate bobbins made now and have also sourced the original braided hook up too-right back to the original manufacturer who's now making it for us again.
The area we have improved on is the pole shoe and pole screws, again we've replicated the original dimensions but we're making them from soft iron which is far more magnetically conductive than mild steel.It's a pig to work with but the cumulative effect on the tone is amazing, even more clarity :!:

bucketshred · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2005, 10:45:16 AM »

Why does everyone want vintage pickups?

I'm looking for sounds that are going FORWARD rather than back...

Cool product though, should appeal to the vintage market.

Andy!

Ginger Ninja · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2005, 10:59:31 AM »

Sounds that go forward? I understand what you mean. Todays guitarists are looking for vintage tone mainly, rather than harnessing the sheer power and greatness of all the modern day tech thats being created. a lot of people slate modelling amps but i think they are the way of the future, and i think there should be modelling pickups!

HJM · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2005, 11:08:26 AM »

Quote from: Ginger Ninja

Sounds that go forward? I understand what you mean. Todays guitarists are looking for vintage tone mainly, rather than harnessing the sheer power and greatness of all the modern day tech thats being created. a lot of people slate modelling amps but i think they are the way of the future, and i think there should be modelling pickups!

Yes but most modelling amps model vintage tones......

Until they speed up the reaction time of digital, I'll stick with valves!

Ginger Ninja · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2005, 11:11:38 AM »

Modelling amps model vintage tones because thats what people want, my point is that we should harness the digital stuff so that new and more unique tones and amp models can be created, then we can all load them onto our Line 6 Vetta 2's.

But then again... who can afford a vetta 2?

Tim · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2005, 11:47:17 AM »

We make vintage correct components for the simple reason that they sound the best-as time has gone on manufacturers have looked at how they can speed up production and cut costs, this has nearly always been at the expense of the pickups tone. All I've done is to reinstate the vintage values that are relevant and improve areas that I felt could be improved upon.

We do make alot of other pickups that are voiced for contemporary applications-Nailbombs, Warpigs etc although I still use vintage correct components in these too.

As for vintage tone vs modern-well beauty is in the eye of the beholder.We all look for different things in tone, what's right for one is envariably not right for another, it's what makes us all individuals. I try to put an element of this into all our pickups and also make them to the best of my ability.

As a pickup maker I have to cater for all styles and try not to let personel taste dictate what I do-I mean I'm a rock/metal player by choice but I love and appreciate the tone of vintage voiced pickups.

Ginger Ninja · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2005, 02:02:27 PM »

Im not dissing any of Bare Knuckles products, or any product of any company, because I do like vintage tone and vintage stuff - its cool to look back and still be able to re-create things of the past. Im just looking into the future thats all, players like matt bellamy are real visionarys into what modern technology has to offer and he has really inspired me to try and appreciate modern as well as vintage style tones and technologies

bucketshred · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2005, 02:54:23 PM »

Vintage is cool, but what I'm trying to say is that I don't understand the stigma of 'vintage' gear. Yeah a JCM800 sounds cool and could be considered 'vintage' but I'd be more interested in getting a modern tone from the amp.

Andy!

HJM · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2005, 03:06:28 PM »

Quote from: bucketshred

Vintage is cool, but what I'm trying to say is that I don't understand the stigma of 'vintage' gear. Yeah a JCM800 sounds cool and could be considered 'vintage' but I'd be more interested in getting a modern tone from the amp.

Andy!

You'd be amazed at the design of most modern amps, Soldano, a lot of Boogies, Marshall and all the 'improved' Marshalls, all have their roots in the Fender Bassman circuit. Sure there's mods, but valve circuits are all very similar, mor so today than 40 years ago!

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2005, 05:32:56 PM »

I would want to make my own pickups as much as make my own guitars.
It's interesting stuff, but I don't have the time or natural talent for it.

I would much rather work hand in hand with someone such as Laz Gajic or Tim who can bring my ideas to life without the trial and error!

Tim · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2005, 05:52:33 PM »

Quote from: Ginger Ninja

Im not dissing any of Bare Knuckles products, or any product of any company, because I do like vintage tone and vintage stuff - its cool to look back and still be able to re-create things of the past. Im just looking into the future thats all, players like matt bellamy are real visionarys into what modern technology has to offer and he has really inspired me to try and appreciate modern as well as vintage style tones and technologies

Just made Matt some pickups for his new guitar :!:

HJM · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2005, 06:58:26 PM »

Quote from: Tim

Quote from: Ginger Ninja
Im not dissing any of Bare Knuckles products, or any product of any company, because I do like vintage tone and vintage stuff - its cool to look back and still be able to re-create things of the past. Im just looking into the future thats all, players like matt bellamy are real visionarys into what modern technology has to offer and he has really inspired me to try and appreciate modern as well as vintage style tones and technologies

Just made Matt some pickups for his new guitar :!:

What did he go for?

Ginger Ninja · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2005, 07:01:20 PM »

Tim, I am in deep jealousy of you! Matt Bellamy is great, a true legend of modern day music and if he has your seal of approval then i think thats great news for you guys! The more people using Bare Knuckles the better I say! It would be interesting to hear what pickups you built for him though! I dont suppose your allowed to say?

HJM · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2005, 07:03:56 PM »

Quote from: Ginger Ninja

Tim, I am in deep jealousy of you! Matt Bellamy is great, a true legend of modern day music and if he has your seal of approval then i think thats great news for you guys! The more people using Bare Knuckles the better I say! It would be interesting to hear what pickups you built for him though! I dont suppose your allowed to say?

Set of Mules maybe??? :lol:

Author Topic: OK Tim, how far out is this? (Read 13359 times)

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