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Philly Q

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 07:27:12 PM »
Assuming parcelforce deliver it tomorrow as planned then it probably took about 3 weeks, which is not too bad considering it was not fretted when I chose it.

I find it normally takes about 8-10 days, but I always go for UPS Express rather than USPS/Parcelforce.  

Last neck I ordered took just over 2 weeks, and that included a paint job (having said that, the satin nitro finish is so thin I'm not 100% sure it's there at all!  :lol: )
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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 07:43:59 PM »
Assuming parcelforce deliver it tomorrow as planned then it probably took about 3 weeks, which is not too bad considering it was not fretted when I chose it.

I find it normally takes about 8-10 days, but I always go for UPS Express rather than USPS/Parcelforce.  

Last neck I ordered took just over 2 weeks, and that included a paint job (having said that, the satin nitro finish is so thin I'm not 100% sure it's there at all!  :lol: )

I think that's what I paid for. Plus it's not getting painted, so with any luck I'll get it before Xmas.

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 08:05:24 PM »

(hence leading lew to believe in his own awesomeness and its influence on my pricing ;) )

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 11:24:14 PM »
:lol:

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2009, 12:11:38 AM »
but when you start adding a few custom options onto the warmoth stuff it adds up fast and people like me start to look a better deal

That is true, unfortunatelly... changing fretboard radius or the position of dots (like on the '50s instead of the ususal '60s position on the W Pro neck) and thinks like this, sucks a lot...

Also they won't try in any way putting a maple fretboard on wenge or rosewood neck, not even if it's the stabilized maple :roll:

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2009, 12:22:22 AM »
True, they won't do everything, even at a price.

I have noticed one new feature, just in the last week or so - you can now buy an unfinished showcase body and choose a finish for it!  :D
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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2009, 02:17:57 AM »
True, they won't do everything, even at a price.

I have noticed one new feature, just in the last week or so - you can now buy an unfinished showcase body and choose a finish for it!  :D
I thought you could always do that.. by phone ;)
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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2009, 10:49:21 AM »
True, they won't do everything, even at a price.

I have noticed one new feature, just in the last week or so - you can now buy an unfinished showcase body and choose a finish for it!  :D
I thought you could always do that.. by phone ;)

You could always do custom orders that way, I didn't know you could get an existing showcase item painted - I hate phones, only use them as a last resort!
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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2009, 10:54:57 AM »
Okay, mine came this morning.  It's a quality neck.  The finish is so smooth it feels like it's already got a satin coat on it even though it is unfinished.

The Boat contour is really nice, not as chunky as I thought it would be, but then again they never do feel as chunky until they are strung up.  Unfortunately as I bought mine for Chrismas my missus is insisting it gets wrapped up until Christmas day!

One thing I noticed was that it says 'oil finishes not satisfactory' on the back of the neck, which is not ideal as I'm doing a Tru-oil finish....

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2009, 11:02:10 AM »
One thing I noticed was that it says 'oil finishes not satisfactory' on the back of the neck, which is not ideal as I'm doing a Tru-oil finish....

It's only in terms of the warranty - they're not responsible if it warps, unless you put a hard finish on it.  That said, I think I read somewhere on the Unofficial Warmoth forum that they would regard Tru-Oil as a "finish" rather than an "oil", because of the way it hardens.

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"All our necks are dipped in an oil based penetrating sealer which is compatible with virtually all secondary finishes. This provides enhanced stability; however, it is not adequate protection for playing. We strongly recommend you apply a hard finish to all Maple, Mahogany, and Koa necks. Oils do not validate our warranty requirements. We understand the attraction of raw or lightly oiled necks. They feel fast and are not sticky. Unfortunately, they are much more susceptible to moisture related warping and twisting. Our experience is that hard finished necks seldom warp. Less than 1 out of 200 (0.5%) are returned for warpage. Raw or oiled necks don't fare as well. About 10% are rendered useless from the torture. The more acidic your perspiration, the higher the odds are against you.
If you must play a raw neck, that's cool; it's ok. A neck is just a tool. Just be aware of the risk. If yours does the pretzel act, we don't want to hear about it.
For a valid warranty, a hard finish must be sufficiently thick to completely cover the wood. That means no wood is exposed and you are actually playing on the finish, not the wood. Now, it does not matter to us who applies the finish. Of course we would like to do the finish for you, but if you choose to do it yourself or have it done elsewhere the warranty is still valid."

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2009, 11:15:55 AM »
One thing I noticed was that it says 'oil finishes not satisfactory' on the back of the neck, which is not ideal as I'm doing a Tru-oil finish....

It's only in terms of the warranty - they're not responsible if it warps, unless you put a hard finish on it.  That said, I think I read somewhere on the Unofficial Warmoth forum that they would regard Tru-Oil as a "finish" rather than an "oil", because of the way it hardens.

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"All our necks are dipped in an oil based penetrating sealer which is compatible with virtually all secondary finishes. This provides enhanced stability; however, it is not adequate protection for playing. We strongly recommend you apply a hard finish to all Maple, Mahogany, and Koa necks. Oils do not validate our warranty requirements. We understand the attraction of raw or lightly oiled necks. They feel fast and are not sticky. Unfortunately, they are much more susceptible to moisture related warping and twisting. Our experience is that hard finished necks seldom warp. Less than 1 out of 200 (0.5%) are returned for warpage. Raw or oiled necks don't fare as well. About 10% are rendered useless from the torture. The more acidic your perspiration, the higher the odds are against you.
If you must play a raw neck, that's cool; it's ok. A neck is just a tool. Just be aware of the risk. If yours does the pretzel act, we don't want to hear about it.
For a valid warranty, a hard finish must be sufficiently thick to completely cover the wood. That means no wood is exposed and you are actually playing on the finish, not the wood. Now, it does not matter to us who applies the finish. Of course we would like to do the finish for you, but if you choose to do it yourself or have it done elsewhere the warranty is still valid."



Ah great, that explains a lot.  And the sealer oil they apply explains why it already feels slightly finished.
I wander if the contour affects the warpage, I would imagine the boat is a little more solid than a thinner contour?
Either way happy now to proceed with the Tru-oil finish!


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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2009, 11:33:42 AM »
And the sealer oil they apply explains why it already feels slightly finished.
I wander if the contour affects the warpage, I would imagine the boat is a little more solid than a thinner contour?

I've bought two satin-finished necks from them recently, one has a vintage tint and one's clear - they feel exactly the same as unfinished necks!  So I suspect they only use a couple of coats and they must regard their own finishes as adequate.  I'm sure you'll be fine with the Tru-Oil.

I think you're right about the thicker neck shapes being less prone to problems, but I guess even a big neck can twist.
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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2009, 11:26:37 PM »
True, they won't do everything, even at a price.

I have noticed one new feature, just in the last week or so - you can now buy an unfinished showcase body and choose a finish for it!  :D
I thought you could always do that.. by phone ;)

I never bought a unfinished body, but I always guessed that it could be solved online or via email...

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2009, 11:23:23 AM »
Well my neck is now in the country. It's waiting for more clearence till it gets delievered. So I'll probably get a letter tomorrow asking me to pay duty on it. Oh well, least I'll get it before Christmas  :P

Got some Tru Oil and Steel wool on the way too.

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Re: buying a neck from warmoth
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2009, 11:42:39 AM »
Well my neck is now in the country. It's waiting for more clearence till it gets delievered. So I'll probably get a letter tomorrow asking me to pay duty on it. Oh well, least I'll get it before Christmas  :P

If its UPS they usually just turn up and ask for a cheque (or cash, I suppose).  But the first couple of times I ordered they phoned me and I paid by credit card.
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