Is anyone curious about this snowy weather?

[MrBump]

We're entering The End Of Days.

It's been foretold for centuries.  All the signs are there.

Only last week I saw a cat with two heads, two tails and two bodies.

[Philly Q]

i doubt one christmas is anything to worry about.

everyone confidently pronouncing global warming isn't real and the scientists are involved in some kind of conspiracy probably is, though.

There does seem to have been a very substantial backlash against global warming theories in the last year or so.

I don't know who's right, I'm not a scientist and I haven't read a great deal about the subject.  But I'm not convinced by the "humans haven't been here for long so we can't have done any damage" argument.  Before us, there wasn't anyone exploiting the planet's resources and pumping pollutants into the atmosphere.  We've only been using coal, oil and gas for a few hundred years but we've used it on an enormous scale.

I'm just worried that if climate change scepticism becomes the default position, it'll give the big-scale polluters licence to carry on regardless.  We may all be doomed, but why speed it up?

[nfe]

I always amused by people with no scientific background that are positive enough that humans are having zero effect on the climate to active laugh at and slate people who think otherwise. Course, there's really nothing to gain for anybody saying it's true if it is, but lots and lots to gain for the people saying (or funding) those who claim it's false. I don't know why any government.

We might be, might not be, I don't have remotely enough understanding of the topic to hold any other view, and neither do 99.999% of people. The one positive though, is that all the climate change panic has encouraged a far more ecological attitude from a huge number of people and legislation pushed towards greener behaviour by governments, and that can only be a good thing.

[FELINEGUITARS]

The Earth is aprox 4.5 billion years old. Its gone through extreme changes in temperature long before we were here. The last ice age lasted longer than our existence here. Its a cycle and it will happen again and when it does taxation to control 'Global Warming' will have absolutely no effect whatsoever and most of us will die. Some may live and keep reproducing long enough to keep us from extinction. The life cycle starts again. The diagram below shows just how little time we have existed in relation to the age of our planet.

[sarcasm]How can you post this nonsense - If you read your bible you would know that the earth is 6000 years old[/sarcasm]

Jonny - we used to have much more snow in decades gone by  and the country didn't grind to a halt either
Many of us in our 40s can tell stories about great fun sledging and snowball fights etc

Also hundreds of years ago the Thames used to freeze over completely and winter fairs were held on the ice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Thames_frost_fairs

Here is a picture of a painting of one such event in 1677 (11 years after the Fire of London)

[Afghan Dave]

Course, there's really nothing to gain for anybody saying it's true if it is, but lots and lots to gain for the people saying (or funding) those who claim it's false.

Mr Ambassador ... with this comment, you're really spoiling us....

I'm not going to burst your bubble... PDT_038

[Will]

I always amused by people with no scientific background that are positive enough that humans are having zero effect on the climate to active laugh at and slate people who think otherwise.

It is impossible to deny that we have effect, but the climate does evolve. Ice ages, species become extinct - the world is forever changing, we act as a catalyst to it, but are we really responsible for the T-rex dying out?

[nfe]

Course, there's really nothing to gain for anybody saying it's true if it is, but lots and lots to gain for the people saying (or funding) those who claim it's false.

Mr Ambassador ... with this comment, you're really spoiling us....

I'm not going to burst your bubble... PDT_038

Other than some renewable energy providers, who really stands to gain from climate change being true and action taken to combat it? Geniune question, I just can't really think of anyone.

I always amused by people with no scientific background that are positive enough that humans are having zero effect on the climate to active laugh at and slate people who think otherwise.

It is impossible to deny that we have effect, but the climate does evolve. Ice ages, species become extinct - the world is forever changing, we act as a catalyst to it, but are we really responsible for the T-rex dying out?

In the little reading I've done on the subject, I've never seen anyone deny that climate change happens anyway, it's the rate of change that's the abnormality.

[Johnny Mac]

There was a great Doc on telly a few weeks back presented by Tony Robinson on this subject. They were saying the climate heats up and cools down in cycles and always has based on their scientist findings, When the climate shifted hot or cold it lasted for thousands of years and the shift would take a decade.
I remember the extra taxes put on air travel a few years ago which were necessary "because of global warming" It was only here that these taxes were imposed. That just said it all to me that its just another way for this clown of a PM to raise even more money. So it would be the gain of the government wouldn't it. They have Ads on tv right now spreading this propaganda.
Thousands of years before we were driving cars the earth was pumping huge amounts of methane into the atmosphere with volcanos so the worlds been "polluted' ever since, ever since. And I'm no Magnus Pike!

Edit another theory for why it could be happening is elliptical orbits of the sun.

[Philly Q]

are we really responsible for the T-rex dying out?

If they were around today, then yes, we almost certainly would be.

Some arse would be destroying their habitat, and some other arse would be killing them to use their toenails as aphrodisiacs.  Or something.

[Ian Price]

Some arse would be destroying their habitat, and some other arse would be killing them to use their toenails as aphrodisiacs.  Or something.

Or some gun-nut would be driving around in a jeep shouting woo-hoo as they shot many rounds at it.

[Afghan Dave]

Some arse would be destroying their habitat, and some other arse would be killing them to use their toenails as aphrodisiacs.  Or something.

Or some gun-nut would be driving around in a jeep shouting woo-hoo as they shot many rounds at it.

And if you lived near a colony of wild T-Rex you would be f**king overjoyed that they were killing each and every one of em!

It's like the poor communities forced (economically) to live closer to wild Tigers.... They love em shot dead.

I love em alive but I don't have to live with the man-eating buggers  :? :?

[Johnny Mac]

Some arse would be destroying their habitat, and some other arse would be killing them to use their toenails as aphrodisiacs.  Or something.

Or some gun-nut would be driving around in a jeep shouting woo-hoo as they shot many rounds at it.

But if we had co-existed with Dinosaurs, would we have become top of the food chain? If not then we wouldn't have the technology we have these days so no cars, roads guns ect

[Philly Q]

Oh God, we'll have Copperhead in here in a minute going on about the Second Amendment and his right to bear armour-piercing missiles or something.

How do we always end up going off on these tangents?  :?

[Johnny Mac]

 :lol: It was some tangent that one!

[Dmoney]

isn't there a creationist natural history museum in the USA (where else?) that points out humans and dinosaurs DID live together, but the T-Rex didn't eat humans because god had not put the fear of man into them for the whole of both species period on the same earth??