Jeeeezzz... I just read all this cr@p... I am a complete tosser! :lol:
And may I add some more? (cr@p)
There's some great stuff here, some funny (haha and peculiar) arguments on both sides, but I can't help feeling that the way it has panned out is missing the point slightly...
I/we need strategies/solutions for how to survive what happens next:
Lots of people are going to die because either humans have become too successful and too numerous for the environment they inhabit, or the environment itself is gonna pull some trick that the humans have not foreseen and cannot control (eg the Sun does something funny, or the Clangers get wise and nuke us).
For example:
- how do I/we find somewhere else to live if/when this pot of resources can no longer sustain me/us?
- how do I/we make sure that other people/species die instead of me/us?
Those are among the things that humans (as individuals, communities, and as a species) should be pondering if they're worried about it. Anything else on the subject is time-and-energy-wasting, head-in-the-sand, self-defeating, and probably involves accepting someone else's agenda without thinking.
Obviously, it's more complicated than that. There are ideologies (both political and spiritual) and practicalities involved that have to be taken into account, blah, blah, and so on, and so forth...
But, the more effort we put into piddling about arguing about what's going on and why, and can we stop the damage, the less effort we put into doing what makes humans so successful - adapting and finding solutions (including killing each other, if necessary, directly or indirectly, to make the survivors' lives better).
Luckily, I'm getting old enough that it doesn't really bother me too much. It's unlikely that I'll survive long enough to see the real fun start and, if I do, I'm one of those people who regards suicide as a valid life choice :lol:
Love and peace folks...