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DimeZakk

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Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« on: January 10, 2010, 09:36:03 PM »
Is this guitar some kind of special edition or Custom Gibson or is it a very well done Fake?

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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 09:41:58 PM »
I've never seen a custom with a rosewood board, not 100% sure but looks fishy to me.

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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 09:43:31 PM »
I reckon that's a very convincing fake. Serial number looks wrong to me, but I may be talking out of my derrière.
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 09:48:22 PM »
Does look odd, why is the truss rod cover not screwed on? Was it originally a 3 screw one?

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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2010, 09:52:28 PM »
FAKE

There are a few giveaways
Bridge is wrong - Gibson always use the Nashville bridge made by Schaller - it never has a screwdriver slot in the post (even though that works well)
Tailpiece looks wrong too shape-wise - looks like a cheap copy part
Truss rod cover is wrong
Screws are of a kind that Gibson dont use
The rosewood board is wrong
The inlays look like plastic instead of real MOP
Nut is a far eastern kind and not the same as Gibson use
strap buttons are wrong - Gibson still insist on using those cr@ppy tiny aluminium or brass ones like they did in the 50s and if they are replaced then it is usually with straplocks

Pickup rings look wrong - just different to what Gibson use
Frets go over the binding instead of having the plastic nibs at the end - not true to Gibson

Take it as read - it's a fake
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2010, 09:53:16 PM »
Think i'm gonna go with fake. 3 Hole truss rod cover is usually the easiest way to tell, and it looks as though this one is. Since, as Will said, it isn't screwed on.

Isn't the bridge mounted backwards too?
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2010, 09:56:25 PM »
I assume this is being shown on ebay or somewhere?

Case is wrong as well - just NOT what Gibson use
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2010, 10:01:16 PM »
Thanks for the answers. No it is not on Ebay (for this reason is suspect).

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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2010, 10:03:24 PM »
Think i'm gonna go with fake. 3 Hole truss rod cover is usually the easiest way to tell, and it looks as though this one is. Since, as Will said, it isn't screwed on.

Isn't the bridge mounted backwards too?

Are you saying 3 hole truss rod covers are std. on a Gibson? If you are you're talking our of your arse! Gibson use 2 screws, that fake has 2 screws, plus if it was a custom they would more than likely be gold plated. It also looks like the cover was cut out by a blind monkey the more I look at it.
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2010, 10:09:02 PM »
Looks like Edwards to me.

Which means it will be better than a Gibson  :lol:
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2010, 10:22:02 PM »
i noticed the truss rod cover was very wonky, but none of the other points pointed out.. guess i don't know my les pauls that well, but spotted the fake anyway :)

it its keenly priced, it might be good value
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2010, 10:56:21 PM »
Definitely fake!

Lots of little details wrong as Jon has pointed out, but I think the rosewood board is the "wrongest" thing.
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2010, 11:15:30 PM »
To add to all the other wrongness, the serial number is the wrong font and size.

I don't think they stamp "Made In USA" on the headstock any more either, which is at odds with the 2005 supposed serial number.

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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2010, 11:16:14 PM »
To add to all the other wrongness, the serial number is the wrong font and size.

I don't think they stamp "Made In USA" on the headstock any more either, which is at odds with the 2005 supposed serial number.

Yes they do, along with the year.
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Re: Special Edition or Fake Les Paul?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2010, 11:19:18 PM »
Think i'm gonna go with fake. 3 Hole truss rod cover is usually the easiest way to tell, and it looks as though this one is. Since, as Will said, it isn't screwed on.

Isn't the bridge mounted backwards too?

Are you saying 3 hole truss rod covers are std. on a Gibson? If you are you're talking our of your arse! Gibson use 2 screws, that fake has 2 screws, plus if it was a custom they would more than likely be gold plated. It also looks like the cover was cut out by a blind monkey the more I look at it.

lol, no i mean fakes normally have 3 hole! I read it in a guitar magazine ages ago. It looks like this guy has tried to cover up that fact by using a 2 hole plate.
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