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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 04:51:24 PM »
Sell it as a custom Jimmy Page shaved neck.
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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2010, 05:27:17 PM »
Haha, that would be pretty funny.
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19075.msg256754#msg256754
This is the guitar though, and I doubt I could pull it as a Jimmy page guitar XD
Still funny though :D
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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2010, 09:05:58 PM »
Time to break out the sandpaper and make sawdust!

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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2010, 09:25:51 PM »
Time to break out the sandpaper and make sawdust!

Fernando - What's a fret slut?  I'd like to find out  :lol:


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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2010, 09:35:32 PM »
No - the gap under the frets isn't indication of a fault per se

The fret slots are probably cut when the fingerboard is still flat and they are all cut to the same depth.
When the radius is applied to the board the camber gets lower on the edges the higher you go up the neck

Think about the arc of a circle which is what a fingerbord essentially is
If the centre of the fingerboard is the top of the circle - if you follow the circumference the further you move away from the top/centre point the lower you get going downwards
So if the nut is 43mm wide - 21.5mm from the centre point you will have dropped less than at the 22nd fret end (poss 57mm wide) which would be 28.5mm from the centre.

Confused? - draw a circle and trace the changes as you move away from the centre/top

So these slot depths has no standing as far as the thickness of the neck goes IMO - although I wont say that Warmoth don't or can't get things wrong at times.

Is the problem that the neck is too big/clublike at the 1st fret area ?
You could just shave some off the back - slightly change the taper so to speak


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Yaknow that makes sense. Sorry not trying to be rude, you have been one of the most polite people on this forum, so "please"don't take offense. :D

The only reason I know this cant be the fact, is that I have another neck with the same specs, and they're completely different. Also this gap is not present on the other one and it has the same radius as this one.


I know what you mean - it is a bit frustrating
Trying to get to the bottom of the issue - what about the neck gives you problems or do you not like?
Is it too clubby at the low frets or too thin higher up
Does the transition just feel weird?
Does it play ok or is it hard to get a great action on the guitar?

It certainly is an interesting dilemma and made me think a bit about how it happened.
I was just curious whether it was a problem to you that you were hoping to resolve....
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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2010, 11:59:56 PM »
I know what you mean - it is a bit frustrating
Trying to get to the bottom of the issue - what about the neck gives you problems or do you not like?
Is it too clubby at the low frets or too thin higher up
Does the transition just feel weird?
Does it play ok or is it hard to get a great action on the guitar?

It certainly is an interesting dilemma and made me think a bit about how it happened.
I was just curious whether it was a problem to you that you were hoping to resolve....
Well, I would consider stripping it and staining it black(black dye with flame maple might be neat). Also before the stain, I would like it to be thinned just a bit. Then refinished. See this would be awesome, but it costs as much as buying another neck! :D
So I'm a little turned off to the idea to get all that work done. Probably would be better to just get another one. :\
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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2010, 12:15:12 AM »
Hard maple doesn't like to be dyed

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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2010, 12:28:58 AM »
Hard maple doesn't like to be dyed
They do it with tops? That cant all be soft maple?
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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2010, 09:03:27 AM »
you could test that on the heel, but you do quite often get flecks in hard maple that wont take the dye as well as other areas... you also need to be really sure its sanded to perfection before even trying.  The other issue is that warmoth did their necks in an oil sealer to give them some protection... this will not help with a direct stain

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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2010, 03:51:53 PM »
you could test that on the heel, but you do quite often get flecks in hard maple that wont take the dye as well as other areas... you also need to be really sure its sanded to perfection before even trying.  The other issue is that warmoth did their necks in an oil sealer to give them some protection... this will not help with a direct stain
Hah, I really doubt I could do all that work myself. XD
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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2010, 10:14:21 AM »
you could test that on the heel, but you do quite often get flecks in hard maple that wont take the dye as well as other areas... you also need to be really sure its sanded to perfection before even trying.  The other issue is that warmoth did their necks in an oil sealer to give them some protection... this will not help with a direct stain
Hah, I really doubt I could do all that work myself. XD

Dying the neck is a skill which I wouldn't fancy practicing on something like this neck, but reshaping and then oiling is something which wouldn't be too hard (as long as you take it slow, you'd be suprised at just how little you have to take off necks to get them to feel completetly different).  Afraid that I can't see your pics due to this sodding works computer, but with the help of some of the guys here, it doesn't sound too bad.
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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2011, 06:23:16 PM »
I CAN NOT believe none has mentioned it. The reason the fretboard is away from the body is because the neck socket in the body DOESN'T have a 720 Mod to it - this is an option on Warmoth guitars :)

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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2011, 06:44:55 PM »
I CAN NOT believe none has mentioned it. The reason the fretboard is away from the body is because the neck socket in the body DOESN'T have a 720 Mod to it - this is an option on Warmoth guitars :)

maybe nobody mentioned it because it was well past the stage to easily change the neck pocket... and the raised neck was never the issue in the first place

anyway - the reason the fretboard is away from the body is because that how this style of guitar is made. as fenders traditionally have plates.  The raised neck is not really an issue at all, accept aesthetically if it bothers you.  the warmoth mod is a nice idea to neaten it up, but far from a deal breaker
« Last Edit: July 29, 2011, 07:11:57 PM by WezV »

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Re: Warmoth Nightmare.
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2011, 05:01:56 AM »
I CAN NOT believe none has mentioned it. The reason the fretboard is away from the body is because the neck socket in the body DOESN'T have a 720 Mod to it - this is an option on Warmoth guitars :)

They did not offer that when the neck was made and I would not have even if they did. Also you missed the point of why I started the thread.

Thank you WezV, you put it perfectly.

Also Let this thread die. I find my old posts rude, thus embarrassing. XD   
« Last Edit: August 09, 2011, 05:07:15 AM by Ribboz »
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