Les Paul Copy

[Twinfan]

The price difference is there for various reasons - country of manufacture, build quality, QC, raw materials etc.

Only you can decide if the more expensive model is truly "worth it".

[Twinfan]

Just seen this on eBay, which is a great buy at £350:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gibson-Epiphone-Joe-Perry-Signature-Les-Paul_W0QQitemZ190371176850QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item2c5301a192

[Philly Q]

Not a lefty though!

[Twinfan]

Doh!  Missed that bit!

[Ian Price]

Only you can decide if the more expensive model is truly "worth it".

This sounds like the voice of experience  :)

[Twinfan]

Exactly!

I've bought and sold a few guitars over the years  ;)

[varkunus]

OK may sound a bit odd, but if you gave the MIJ tokais an overall rating for 10 on the following. How would the vintage score comparitively on the following...

Sound -
Raw materials -
construction quality -
playability -

[Twinfan]

Dude - enough already.

Find a shop with some in stock and play them both and see what YOU think.  It's always worth a day trip to check out guitars  :)

[Ian Price]

I really think you should try some for yourself. What some rate as a 10 others may rate as a 7 etc etc etc. It's very difficult to be specific about the details in differences between 2 guitars on a forum - the only real way of telling is trying.

Just my opinion of course.

[Ian Price]

Dave beat me to it!

Seriously, try some out and decide what you like. I love my strat, Dave doesn't like strats that much. It doesn't make my guitar a 'great' guitar and an 'okay' guitar at the same time. It's all about personal opinion.

And yes, a day out in a guitar shop is a great way of finding out what works for you  8)

[varkunus]

No ofc I know this. But what I am getting is at is how much worse is the build quality of the vintage compared to the more expensive mij tokais. So if someone here has played MIJ tokais and a vintage v100 les paul style guitar. How would describe the differences between guitars. Thats what I am getting at. I live on the isle of wight and guitar shops are limited here so I might have to get shops to specially order in stuff - hence why I am trying to narrow it down as much as possible. But I fully appreciate I need to try. Like i said I am merely trying to compare the general difference in quality between the 2 guitars, and trying to work out if the price difference warrants the quality difference etc.

thanks

[Afghan Dave]

If it is worth knowing it will be discussed here.

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/other-les-pauls/

Use the search and you can find everything you could possibly need to know.

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/other-les-pauls/77927-vintage-v100-v100-icon-icon-lemon-drop-questions.html

[Twinfan]

I've played both.  They're different.  The Vintage feels "cheaper", but I'd be happy to gig either.  I'd buy whichever sounded the best.

[dave_mc]

I believe it does Dave, yep.

cheers, dave. Worth bearing in mind, then- if you're going for the custom model because you like the looks (over the LP standard look), but if you've already got a standard and are going for the custom for the spec, then that'd be a concern, kind of thing. :)

I'm aware that the amp is the main player in tone, but I do think guitars make quite a big difference - albeit subtley. At the moment I am drawn to the vintage les paul lemon drop, but how does it this compare to the MIJ tokais. I mean what is the difference in playbility, tone/wood quality and overall build quality. Has anyone played both a v100 and tokais and so could offer good comparissions?

i don't want to say too much, as i haven't tried that exact model of vintage (and I'm not sure if i've tried the exact tokai model you're talking about, either), but any MIJ tokai I've tried has been in a different league from any vintage I've tried. Like the difference between a (good) gibson and an epiphone.

i agree with everyone saying you really need to try them.

EDIT: just realised you said you lived on the IoW- that's different. I live in NI, and I get a bit annoyed when people tell me to try stuff for which we have no dealers (or chide me for buying online- again, when we have no dealers and when they haven't been in a lot of the local shops here which seem to have stock for 4 years without even so much as a string change :lol: ). And judging by the size of it, if anything the IoW is worse for getting to try gear than Northern Ireland is.

For me, personally (and bearing in mind that I haven't tried the exact models you're talking about, but I've tried quite a few vintages and MIJ tokais of other models), the MIJ Tokai would be worth the increase in price every single time, assuming I could afford it, of course. This is because, for me personally, the Vintage (any I've tried, anyway- we may get the rejects here in NI) isn't "good enough", whereas the Tokai is. Everyone's idea of what is "good enough" is different, though, and that's why you get such a variety of different opinions.

[tomjackson]

Since you can't try the guitars and sound like you can stretch to the MIJ, get one of those, they are fine guitars.
The Vintage is good but get a Tokai and there will never be any doubt in your mind, you have a real Les Paul in all but name.

Do it.  On your Credit Card. Now.