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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2010, 06:29:10 PM »
I just came out of music ground in London.
Went in for a matched quad of el34s

"Do you have a matched quad of el34s"
"No, what do you mean? Like matched... matched..."
"To each other? Yes"
"I know what you mean! You mean like groove tubes or er ruby tubes"
"No I mean any that have been tested and matched"
"So you want a matched pair"
"Actually don't worry, I'll come back another time"

Sweet!

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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2010, 02:47:10 AM »
looks like they're selling that Tele online too Dave, £2299 buy it now...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Custom-Shop-50s-Top-Bound-Esquire-Relic-Black_W0QQitemZ190382178046QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item2c53a97efe#ht_7088wt_939

anyone know how much seller fees Ebay would charge and of course how much Paypal would take off if this guitar sold and the buyer paid with Paypal???? - could be a good argument to getting the price down nearer £2000


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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2010, 08:09:57 AM »
Exactly my thoughts Ian.

Can't be arsed dealing with them any more, plus I've spent up buying that other guitar this week!

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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2010, 10:16:08 AM »
anyone know how much seller fees Ebay would charge and of course how much Paypal would take off if this guitar sold and the buyer paid with Paypal???? - could be a good argument to getting the price down nearer £2000

The seller fees are relatively small on high-value items, they'll be about £70 if it sells.

Listing fees will be pretty much negligible, because they'll have already paid a monthly fee for having an eBay shop.

PayPal fees will be around 3%, so another £70, maybe less if they regularly have a high value of transactions.

So overall probably no more than £150, they'd still receive £2,150.

 
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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2010, 05:22:13 PM »
still seems a bit ridiculous that they'd rather sell it to some random dude on ebay who might mess them around for £2150 (assuming your sums are correct) than sell it to dave for the same price, who isn't going to mess them around and who was at the shop with cash in hand (and who I assume has bought from them before, it's a guitar shop within 200 miles of his house, after all ;) ).

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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2010, 09:31:57 PM »
Yeah, agreed, but they're obviously determined to stick to their "principles"....   :lol:
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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #66 on: March 25, 2010, 06:08:48 PM »
:lol: their loss, i guess. EDIT: well, dave's too if he wants the guitar :(

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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2010, 10:53:56 AM »
Some good points here. Yes, perhaps you should pay a little extra for good service, but guitar shops have a pretty poor rep on customer service. Even then, how much should you pay? I remember once going with a friend to look at an LP standard in a local shop. It was about 2004 I think. It was a 2001 spec LP, but they'd got the RRP for a 2003 spec on it (which was several hundred pounds more). I think they'd got £1,899 on it, and at the time people like GAK and Andertons were offering 2003 specs for £1,200. So, this guitar was at least 2 years old, end of line, and overpriced for that model. They'd only come down about £100 on it! Needless to say it remained unsold, and I believe was still on the wall 3 years later when the shop closed down.
 The internet is here to stay, shops need to figure out how they're going to continue alongside it. Offering a basic £30 setup with new strings which it only needs because it's been on the wall for 6 months and played by 20 teenagers every Saturday really isn't going to cut it when you're charging an extra £150 for it. If you buy a Dean, Washburn, PRS or some others, they come decently set up out the box anyway. Lack of range is another problem. When a shop's only got 5 guitars I'd maybe consider playing, the internet is much more appealing, and really what kind of service can they offer me if there's no real decisions for me to make?
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Re: I don't understand the business model (local guitar shop rant!)
« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2010, 01:14:09 PM »
^ yeah, pretty much. I understand it's hard to compete, I never said it wasn't, but I didn't make the rules, and the shops are pretty shamelessly looking out for their own interests, so I don't see why I'm the churl if I look out for my own.