tokai vs edwards

[LazyNinja]

http://www.musicradar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58725

[Twinfan]

Pay attention Kaz  ;)

Great one for sale here:

http://www.musicradar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58725

[LazyNinja]

D'oh!! :lol:

[tekbow]

^ yeah, nice find, that would be (presumably) a lot nicer than an edwards, assuming it's in the good condition he says it is. :)

from what i gather, the Tokais have a more faithful les paul spec while the edwards deviate a little, alo the flame tops on one of them apparently isnt a true flame top but a veneer over a good maple cap. richtone have a comparison/info page on both

i'd say it depends on the model of tokai. edwards do seem to be a slightly more modern take on things than tokai generally, but (as far as i'm aware) the edwards has the long neck tenon, one piece body back etc. which the cheaper MIJ tokais don't have. Also, as far as i'm aware, the cheaper MIJ tokais have a flame veneer over plainer maple too.

I'm not saying tokais are worse or anything like that, it just depends on what you're after. I'm just saying that there are a bunch of things on the cheaper MIJ tokais which aren't "vintage-correct" either.

Yep, they're in Sheffield and are primarily a mail-order place, hence the appointment system.  You can go in person though  :)

thanks :)

yeah, shuda said tokai's are more faithful compared to the edwards, which they are. edwards apparently have a more modern neck and the top carve is different

[gordiji]

thanks for link twinfan and lazy ninja, i've bid on it, see what happens. i presume it's an all round better guitar
than the ones in  the range i mentioned. don't like sunburst though,can't have everything

[dave_mc]

it's a higher-end model. i haven't tried that model (nor that particular example of it, as guitars can differ), but all things being equal, it should be better, kind of thing. But you never know for sure...

[gordiji]

i checked the catalogue on the link the seller provided and it says' set neck', but the 320 next to it says 'deep joint
neck' implying it's not a long tenon(on the 200) which surprised me.caveat emptor

[Philly Q]

The tenon on the LS200 only just extends into the neck pickup cavity, which I guess makes it a "medium" tenon?

[marauder]

My Edwards Potbelly extends to about half way. Can't remember what the LPs were like.

[Philly Q]

In the Edwards LP I had, you couldn't see the tenon at all - but it was an opaque colour, so it may have been the same as the Potbelly but hidden under the finish.

[dave_mc]

interesting. i assumed they were long tenon on anything much dearer than the 85s, but i guess not.

:?

there were some threads somewhere (japanaxe? tokai registry? the gear page?) showing the different tenons, i guess you could try a search...

[juansolo]

Edwards LP-98-LTS. You can just see it here and it looks like it extends just about to the back of the neck pickup cavity.