Forget bigotgate

[Stevepage]

I'm also enjoying this youthful, positive and friendly side of the New Politics that the Tories and Lib Dems are showing us at present. I'm sure that it will be a very fruitful and cosy partnership. For about 3 months. And then:

 - they will open the crypt door and let out the ghostly looking but still utterly terrifying Norman Tebbit.  All television programmes will be interrupted at that moment so that his hateful face will fill the screen and tell all the poor people out there that the recession is THEIR FAULT for not working hard enough and that from this point on a new Oik Tax will be introduced to reduce their incomes by another third until the deficit is paid off.  Cameron will then appear from stage left and peel off his rubber mask to reveal: JAMES MURDOCH!!  The fresh new face of the imperialist far right!!  Sanctions will be imposed against Wales and Scotland as punishment for repeated and persistent Labour voting and new work camps for people on benefits will open up somewhere in the depths of Norfolk with big iron gates with Arbeit Macht Frei across the top.

Still, they got my vote. I'm off to touch myself intimately whilst looking at pictures of Sarah Palin.

:lol: this genuinely made me laugh

[Afghan Dave]

Well I'm glad to hear our politicians speaking with an English accent again.. Thank god.

[HTH AMPS]

Nice to see politicians sticking to their guns and not compromising at the first chance of power :roll:  Oh, sorry, but its in the 'National Interest' - a lovely new buzz phrase that they're fond of that explains any amount of back-tracking on any issue.  And Nick Clegg as Deputy PM? - f*ck off, give me a break  :gib:

I keep hearing people saying "how much worse could this coalition gov't be?", which begs the question, 'what is it exactly that Labour did so wrong?'.

[Dmoney]

when the government website for creating petitions is back online, I hope someone starts a petition for another election.

[dave_mc]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8678196.stm

cameron's face at 0:11-0:12 is amazing

That's a good moment.  I'm enjoying this human face of politics we've seen the last few days.  I'm sure it won't last.

probably choreographed. but still pretty funny.

Well I'm glad to hear our politicians speaking with an English accent again.. Thank god.

gordon brown's accent > RP

Nice to see politicians sticking to their guns and not compromising at the first chance of power :roll:  Oh, sorry, but its in the 'National Interest' - a lovely new buzz phrase that they're fond of that explains any amount of back-tracking on any issue.  And Nick Clegg as Deputy PM? - f*ck off, give me a break  :gib:

I keep hearing people saying "how much worse could this coalition gov't be?", which begs the question, 'what is it exactly that Labour did so wrong?'.

an awful lot. I can list them if you want (and this is from someone who would have preferred to see GB in office than cameron).

[HTH AMPS]

dave_mc, go on then, I'm curious.

btw, here's the cabinet... http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100512/tuk-who-s-who-in-the-new-coalition-gover-dba1618.html

God help us.

[dave_mc]

ok. bear in mind this is not exhaustive, this is off the top of my head.

-PFI
-iraq war
-turned a blind eye to the banks getting in over their heads
-overly friendly with oligarchs (mandelson) and allowing ridiculous tax loopholes for the super-rich
-selling off gold reserves when gold was at an all-time low
-dithered about bailing out/then nationalising the banks when they realised they were in over their heads
-getting rid of 10p tax rate
-social mobility is getting worse, not better
-starting wars then underfunding the defence forces (i'd prefer they didn't start wars, but if you're going to start them you need to do it right)
-iirc, pretended we'd have a referendum about the lisbon treaty then changed mind
-blatantly admitted to refusal to listen to scientific evidence regarding drugs policy
-knife/gun policy- you get almost more jail time for carrying a weapon than using it (if you're convicted of manslaughter rather than murder)
-ridiculous anti-terror laws
-use of said ridiculous anti-terror laws against iceland, that well-known al quaida heartland
- ID cards
- CCTV everywhere

and as i said, that's off the top of my head. there are bound to be far more.

don't get me wrong, they've done some good things too. and the tories would have done all that and worse. But I'm darned if I'm going to say they're any good, either. Lesser of two evils, that's the best they're getting from me.

[Dr. Stein]

ok. bear in mind this is not exhaustive, this is off the top of my head.

-PFI
-iraq war
-turned a blind eye to the banks getting in over their heads
-overly friendly with oligarchs (mandelson) and allowing ridiculous tax loopholes for the super-rich
-selling off gold reserves when gold was at an all-time low
-dithered about bailing out/then nationalising the banks when they realised they were in over their heads
-getting rid of 10p tax rate
-social mobility is getting worse, not better
-starting wars then underfunding the defence forces (i'd prefer they didn't start wars, but if you're going to start them you need to do it right)
-iirc, pretended we'd have a referendum about the lisbon treaty then changed mind
-blatantly admitted to refusal to listen to scientific evidence regarding drugs policy
-knife/gun policy- you get almost more jail time for carrying a weapon than using it (if you're convicted of manslaughter rather than murder)
-ridiculous anti-terror laws
-use of said ridiculous anti-terror laws against iceland, that well-known al quaida heartland
- ID cards
- CCTV everywhere

and as i said, that's off the top of my head. there are bound to be far more.

don't get me wrong, they've done some good things too. and the tories would have done all that and worse. But I'm darned if I'm going to say they're any good, either. Lesser of two evils, that's the best they're getting from me.

Thing is, any one of those needs at least a dissertation writing on why it was a bad thing. There's not really much point in just listing things without justification.


I don't know who installed the leather sofa on this fence but quite frankly I don't care. It's comfy.

[Afghan Dave]

ok. bear in mind this is not exhaustive, this is off the top of my head.

-PFI
-iraq war
-turned a blind eye to the banks getting in over their heads
-overly friendly with oligarchs (mandelson) and allowing ridiculous tax loopholes for the super-rich
-selling off gold reserves when gold was at an all-time low
-dithered about bailing out/then nationalising the banks when they realised they were in over their heads
-getting rid of 10p tax rate
-social mobility is getting worse, not better
-starting wars then underfunding the defence forces (i'd prefer they didn't start wars, but if you're going to start them you need to do it right)
-iirc, pretended we'd have a referendum about the lisbon treaty then changed mind
-blatantly admitted to refusal to listen to scientific evidence regarding drugs policy
-knife/gun policy- you get almost more jail time for carrying a weapon than using it (if you're convicted of manslaughter rather than murder)
-ridiculous anti-terror laws
-use of said ridiculous anti-terror laws against iceland, that well-known al quaida heartland
- ID cards
- CCTV everywhere

and as i said, that's off the top of my head. there are bound to be far more.

don't get me wrong, they've done some good things too. and the tories would have done all that and worse. But I'm darned if I'm going to say they're any good, either. Lesser of two evils, that's the best they're getting from me.

Thank you Dave_mc, at least there is someone who has been living in the real world not the f**king Socialist Republic of Fantasy

[Lew]

I really don't get why people are crying over Lib-Con. You wanted change? You got it. It's an exciting time especially if it really does come to fruition as a true coalition. They can't do worse than Labour! Brown wasn't elected and thus he should have $%&#ed off long ago - ironically if he had called an election when he got in I think he'd still be in now. Browns comments sum everything about Labour and immigration up, really. You can't have an opinion on immigration for fear of being branded racist.

[38thBeatle]

Well our country is in a mess and the Government, whoever they are made up of, will have an awful time ahead and for we mere mortals I expect it will be very painful.I wish the Government well. I am staying out of politics on this board.

[Philly Q]

Thank you Dave_mc, at least there is someone who has been living in the real world not the f**king Socialist Republic of Fantasy

I'm not saying I totally 100% agree with that statement, but it did make me laugh!  :lol:

As for the coalition, we've had an election, we got a hung parliament, somebody had to do something.  Let's not write them off before they've even started.

God, these politics threads are a nightmare.  :roll:

[AndyR]

God, these politics threads are a nightmare.  :roll:

Actually, I think we've done really well on this thread, five pages and no loss of life yet... :D

[Johnny Mac]

The sour grapes, blind speculation and poor losers in here! Get over it and put up with it. I've had to put up with New Labour since 1997. Yes ok I did vote for Bliar, Blair too once but soon saw through all the bullshitee. "Something better change de dum dum de dee dee."  :headphones3:

Anyway got any good guitar related storys to tell or are we going to bicker, squabble, fuss and grumble about stuff out of our hands until the next general election? Eh eh? Was that a yes at the back there? :lol:

Fbloke, nice bit of satire!  :lol:

[nfe]

ok. bear in mind this is not exhaustive, this is off the top of my head.

-PFI
-iraq war
-turned a blind eye to the banks getting in over their heads
-overly friendly with oligarchs (mandelson) and allowing ridiculous tax loopholes for the super-rich
-selling off gold reserves when gold was at an all-time low
-dithered about bailing out/then nationalising the banks when they realised they were in over their heads
-getting rid of 10p tax rate
-social mobility is getting worse, not better
-starting wars then underfunding the defence forces (i'd prefer they didn't start wars, but if you're going to start them you need to do it right)
-iirc, pretended we'd have a referendum about the lisbon treaty then changed mind
-blatantly admitted to refusal to listen to scientific evidence regarding drugs policy
-knife/gun policy- you get almost more jail time for carrying a weapon than using it (if you're convicted of manslaughter rather than murder)
-ridiculous anti-terror laws
-use of said ridiculous anti-terror laws against iceland, that well-known al quaida heartland
- ID cards
- CCTV everywhere

and as i said, that's off the top of my head. there are bound to be far more.

don't get me wrong, they've done some good things too. and the tories would have done all that and worse. But I'm darned if I'm going to say they're any good, either. Lesser of two evils, that's the best they're getting from me.

Thank you Dave_mc, at least there is someone who has been living in the real world not the f**king Socialist Republic of Fantasy

What's socialism got to do with anything that's happened in British government in the last 30 years? That's Daily Mail Headline chat.

Thinking that Labour are the best of a bad bunch doesn't make you a socialist, in fact, being a La bour voter means you probably aren't a socialist, there's only one Socialist Labour MP, and the rest of the party would like to see him lose his seat!  :lol:

Good to see that Theresa May, great adversary of gay rights, abortion, the right to end life and stem cell and embryological research gets a new job.

Equality commisioner.