can't get floyd rose to stay in tune (UPDATE)

[HTH AMPS]

try :
Remove middle spring and tighten spring claw up to restore balance
this will put remaining two springs under greater tension (even in neutral/rest position)

This may remove odd behaviour

will give that a try, cheers J.

as for the Floyd, its likely a Korean one as these BC Rich's are made in Korea.  are the real-deal original Floyds a straight swap? it is even worth doing this?

[Stevepage]

They are direct drop ins so that shouldn't be a problem.

However if the problem keeps persisting and you really want to keep the guitar then I'd go for an original floyd rose. Even used they're usually in good condition.

[gwEm]

try :
Remove middle spring and tighten spring claw up to restore balance
this will put remaining two springs under greater tension (even in neutral/rest position)

This may remove odd behaviour

will give that a try, cheers J.

as for the Floyd, its likely a Korean one as these BC Rich's are made in Korea.  are the real-deal original Floyds a straight swap? it is even worth doing this?

the 'real' ones are much better... but i count the modern 'ping' floyds as real ones personally.

i changed a dirty knock-off floyd to an OFR one and the difference was night and day, and tonally especially!

[HTH AMPS]

OFRs are around £150.00 though (ouch!!!!).

Might keep my eye out for an old 80s/90s cheapy metal axe with an OFR and put the Korean one on it to resell.

[HTH AMPS]

so are the OFRs the absolute best? - what about the Schaller ones?  or Gotoh? 

these on ebay look promising, comments appreciated (I've been out of the floyd thing for 15 years)...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Schaller-German-made-Lisc-Floyd-Rose-bridge-black-/120602921885?pt=Guitar_Accessories#ht_3082wt_911

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jackson-Floyd-Rose-Trem-/220654237912?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV#ht_500wt_1154

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gotoh-Licensed-Floyd-Rose-Trem-Tremolo-Bridge-Black-/350369953190?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories#ht_671wt_912

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Floyd-Rose-Original-Black-R2-R4-Nut-/150480371201?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories#ht_500wt_1154

[Stevepage]

Well according to John Suhr, Original Floyd Roses aren't what they used to be. He changed to Gotoh trems as their quality is a lot better. He found that he had to work on every Original Floyd rose he got, something to do with shoddy saddles I think.

Considering the high quality of Suhr guitars I'd be confident with using a Gotoh and they're a bit cheaper.

[Stevepage]

http://www.online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?t=5479

That's a link to a discussion on the Original Floyd Rose thing.

[HTH AMPS]

thanks for that - will check Gotoh out.

also spoke to my local guitar guy, he reckons its a common fault and the trem posts going into the body are usually to blame.

gonna take it over to him to checkout.

[dave_mc]

the gotoh one is very nice, but (if i remember correctly) the studs are marginally larger than the OFR ones, so if you want to use the gotoh studs you'll probably have to drill (i assume, i know nothing about DIY :lol: ).

[Philly Q]

Well according to John Suhr, Original Floyd Roses aren't what they used to be. He changed to Gotoh trems as their quality is a lot better. He found that he had to work on every Original Floyd rose he got, something to do with shoddy saddles I think.

Considering the high quality of Suhr guitars I'd be confident with using a Gotoh and they're a bit cheaper.

That does fit in quite conveniently with the fact that all the other bridges Suhr use are Gotoh as well....    :P


It may well be true though.  Floyds are anathema to me, so I'll never find out, but cynicism apart, I'm a big fan of Gotoh hardware in general.

[MDV]

I'm not a FR abuser (I tend to block them) but the gotoh is very well engineered; at least as good as OFRs and schallers (so basically, at least as good as schaller, since they make OFRs anyway).

[Ribboz]

You prolly could send it to Feline for a setup? I think he does that.
I've heard decent stuff about his work.

[FELINEGUITARS]

OFRs are around £150.00 though (ouch!!!!).

Might keep my eye out for an old 80s/90s cheapy metal axe with an OFR and put the Korean one on it to resell.

OFRs are actually closer to £250 - I know - I've just ordered one for a custom build through the official importer
I suspect that there are some "grey imports" on ebay although the real ones seem to be £175+

[hunter]

I had the same issue on my Axis. Turned out the blades/studs had some nicks, that's the death verdict.

So I got a new Gotoh from WDMusic, installed it carefully and I am stressfree since. Only thing that's a bit of a headache is that the D-Tuna only leaves VERY LITTLE fine tuning on the low E. This works much better with an OFR. 

[Ribboz]

OFRs are around £150.00 though (ouch!!!!).

Might keep my eye out for an old 80s/90s cheapy metal axe with an OFR and put the Korean one on it to resell.

OFRs are actually closer to £250 - I know - I've just ordered one for a custom build through the official importer
I suspect that there are some "grey imports" on ebay although the real ones seem to be £175+

Geez!! they cost a lot more in Brit. :\