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Sifu Ben

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2010, 05:44:42 PM »
When it comes to the "why?", in a recent review in Guitarist for the new 305 and SAS models, someone at PRS had told them that the artist relations people had told them that they needed a more stratty guitar.
Again, with the 58 I've not been that big a PRS fan because I don't like wrapover bridges (they just feel wrong to me), so a TOM equipped singlecut makes sense to me, however as been pointed out, they seem to get this sort of thing just plain wrong visually. It's like anything they make for largely buisness reasons they just don't seem to get. PRS guitars seem to be the way they are because that's how they understand guitars to be.
Oh, and Ian, I would be ALL over a custom 24 with sharper horns, reduced heel, flatter radius and a string through TOM.
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2010, 06:36:47 PM »
i posted a few weeks about about other types of SSS guitars and Philly came back with a Hamer Mirage. I can imagine a PRS'd version of that very well. I'm not a PRS man at all, but set neck mahogany/korina guitar with SSS layout would be great.
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2010, 06:45:23 PM »
The only thing I'd be drooling over would be a 1987 reissue in Vintage Yellow.  That would be embracing their heritage, and surely it'd sell???

In fact, I wouldn't just drool over one I'd actually buy one.


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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2010, 09:29:15 PM »
I'm not a PRS-player, but I understood they are tonewise somewhere between Fender and Gibson. I played a couple in musicstores but the 22-fret-models had all this fat neck I can't get use to. Stick to my strat and tele, however some of the PRS-models sounded good, but not all spectacular, at least to my taste.
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2010, 12:04:45 AM »
I love PRS guitars but I did breath a sigh of relief after seeing the DC3 after buying a 305 - looks cr@p and I love strat type guitars!

They have to keep reinventing the wheel to survive in these difficult times with little history compared to the other big two. Its difficult for them but I am not turned on by anything I've seen.

As an aside I played a PRS DGT based guitar designed by guitarist which had 59/09 pickups and a stunning top and colour in Guitarguitar bham the other day and it was quite possibly the best guitar I have ever played. PRS still has it - just not in these offerings. (The DGt was £4.5k so it should have been damn good)

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2010, 05:53:27 AM »
The only thing I'd be drooling over would be a 1987 reissue in Vintage Yellow.  That would be embracing their heritage, and surely it'd sell???

In fact, I wouldn't just drool over one I'd actually buy one.



yep, this is the first kind of PRS i remember seeing. My guitar teacher had one. One of his students had been an endorser and i think it was a present. i fell in love then and there. took me another 12 years to get one.



I don't know where i'd put PRS sonically, i don't think i'd say between fender and gibson. they have their own thing going on. is easiest to say they sound like a thin mahogany bodied maple topped guitar. played so many in the intervening years between seeing one and owning in and i have to say, very few of them pushed my buttons
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2010, 11:31:58 AM »
I still cant believe they discontinued the custom 22 thats like fender saying there going to stop making strats or something.

Like Tekbow I fell in love with the custom 22 a long time ago and it took me a good few years to save up for one.

I love my tremonti's and custom 22 but I think PRS have become too concerned with change and losing sight of what got them to were they are (the custom22/24 and mccarty's). Going after the more 'traditional' guitar players which would probably never buy they're product as they would go for the fender and gibsons seems to be crazy in my eyes. Its rather annoying as they've discontinued every model (bar the tremonti) that I would consider buying.

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2010, 02:48:15 PM »
Rightly or wrongly, my experience as one of these old-git strat-players tells me that NOTHING sounds like an actual strat... if I want a strat, I'm getting a strat or a well built copy. And I'm afraid that I snort amusing snorting sounds at folks that make things like the above PRS strat-a-like. They're never going to convince the folks like me to get one!! Hell, it is so easy nowadays to get a decent strat with Fender written on it, what sane person who wants a strat is going to get a more expensive guitar that is a bit like but actually isn't a strat?!!

Well, there are people who buy Suhr, Tom Anderson, Tyler, Grosh and things like that.

I'm prepared to believe those guitars are at least on a par with Fender Custom Shop and a lot better than production Fenders.

But - and here's where I'm going to agree with you!  :lol: - none of those guitars are as cool as Fender.  And the people who play them tend to far-above-us mere-mortals types like Scott Henderson, Michael Landau.... great players, but they're like surgeons who need guitars which are precision tools.  The cool rock'n'roll guys just play Fenders.  And it has to be said that's what most people are always going to aspire to.

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Back on PRS, I agree with many of the comments above.

I believe the reason PRS have managed to actually compete with the big two - where many others failed - is that they have/had a design philosophy and actually stuck to it, basing everything round a couple of body shapes, limited options and proprietary pickups and hardware.  When they depart from that philosophy something always smells funny.
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2010, 04:16:25 PM »
yeah, i mean there's better made guitars etc, but there's just something about the name fender on the headstock isn't there.. just a mojo that nothing else replaces

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2010, 04:48:20 PM »
I really like the look of the SE Torero. I think for a metal guitar it looks a lot nicer than the say the ESP's and Schecter guitars. I play Les pauls and own 2 Fenders, one American and the other is a MIM Hss with a Floyd rose and a Charvel custom shop mahogany but, I really dig the PRS guitars. I will never pay 3,000 + for another guitar so if I decided to get a PRS it will be an SE model and just replace the pups.

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2010, 06:08:56 PM »
All these years and PRS is still making full circle. :( They should stick to their guns, or do something new :\
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2010, 12:36:53 AM »
All these years and PRS is still making full circle. :( They should stick to their guns, or do something new :\

I think that might be what I'm trying to say right there. If they're for doing something new/different, then by all means do something new, not this half-assed crowbarring of other ideas over the top of their original shapes.

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2010, 02:07:27 AM »
All these years and PRS is still making full circle. :( They should stick to their guns, or do something new :\

I agree. Also the Mira is just a subtle change to the PRS-theme. They should come up with some new designs for a good price (not over 1200 euro) and not just all kind of private stock and ultraquilted models most players can't afford or don't dare to bring on stage. I would not bring a private stock to a beerflooded gig!
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2010, 05:54:02 AM »
I actually like the Mirs, i think there's a pace for it in the lineup, although i basically agree. And also about the private stock stuff, beautiful yes, would i buy? no. those are guitars to put on a wall and be looked at, not be played.. and i don't think a guitar should ever be made as a piece of art instea of something to play..