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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2010, 01:44:46 PM »
well there is john diggins and possibly alan exley as mentioned above - both worked for john birch. Diggins still makes john birch style pickups for his old boy replicas,  Exley seems to hoard old parts

there is also the occasional ebay auction to keep my eye open for - like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1975-John-Birch-Hyperflux-G-Guitar-Pickup-RARE-/130448510622?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1e5f564e9e

the problem for most pickup makers is the metal work - i absolutely want the original look if i can get it... i already have normal pickups wound to sound like an Iommi pickup

you have humbuckers that sound like the JB pickups Iommi used? - hmmm, do tell - I'm interested.


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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2010, 01:46:31 PM »
i'm interested too :)

gibson iommi, JB fullsize remakes, and bkp warpigs don't count :)
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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2010, 02:00:04 PM »
well they are close enough to get there, but not spot on.

they came from a guy on project guitar who is really just starting to make pickups, but not doing too bad a job.  He is also a bit of a birch/diggins fan so is happily aiming for that flavour

i have one of his early A8 fullsize humbuckers - but apparently he has designed a mini-humbucker since then that is much closer to the Iommi sound

http://www.guitar-logistics.com/pickups.html

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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2010, 02:11:39 PM »
You can buy John Birch pickups from them still, however they are full sized and don't sound the same because of the magnetic 'width' of the pickup.  Mini humbuckers would be more like the tone, but won't have the attack.
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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2010, 02:30:22 PM »
well they are close enough to get there, but not spot on.

they came from a guy on project guitar who is really just starting to make pickups, but not doing too bad a job.  He is also a bit of a birch/diggins fan so is happily aiming for that flavour

i have one of his early A8 fullsize humbuckers - but apparently he has designed a mini-humbucker since then that is much closer to the Iommi sound

http://www.guitar-logistics.com/pickups.html

I like the look of this Vee they're making... (attention gwEm, ha ha...)



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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2010, 02:31:49 PM »
yeah, i hate to think how many splinters that thing has given him

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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2010, 02:37:43 PM »
unsure i like that ;)
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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2010, 02:54:38 PM »
looks better than a V2 though - the other V shaped wood sandwich!


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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2010, 02:57:35 PM »
looks better than a V2 though - the other V shaped wood sandwich!

agreed, i like the way the V2 plays though, and the idea of the way it sounds - bright and very similar to a minihumbucker. those boomerang pickups are slightly lifeless though.
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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2010, 04:54:21 PM »
What wood is that V?  For some reason it looks to me like it'll weigh a ton....
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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2010, 05:43:30 PM »
it is wenge - so it may well be heavy, cant remember if it got chambered or not

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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2010, 01:18:01 PM »
Its here... and it sounds pretty damn sweet - a lot better than i expected actually.  the pickups are old dimarzios with no model codes stamped on the back like i think they have now

Splits are rather serious as they go all the way through and its basically just the jack and back plate holding it together - but i dont mind that as it makes for an easier reglue

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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2010, 07:27:24 PM »
That's a real "relic"!  :)

I love the uniqueness of the parts, like those wacky knobs and switch. 

And is the bottom strap button the same piece as the bridge studs?  How the hell are those fitted, just pushed in?
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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2010, 07:46:52 PM »
Certainly seems to have character. I look forward to the rescue.
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Re: a messed up john birch
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2010, 08:37:10 PM »
sketched out the wiring for reference.    Its rather odd!