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fr33man1

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Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« on: December 02, 2010, 01:41:07 PM »
Hey fellas. I kinda miss the feeling of a good tube amp those days. (too much numeric line 6 pod abuse I guess).

I'm willing to put something around 900 euros on the table to get something with convincing hi gain sounds, something massive, well built but not sterile or too tight or djenty.

In my range I can get a new JCA 100 (slo 100 clone, liked alot the soldano one in a shop), orange rockerverb 50 used , HK triamp MKI combo for very cheap by a neighbour and also the standard but very reliable and good sounding old peavey 6505/5150.  I forgot a krank revolution one thats also being sold not so far from my place.

All I know is that I want to avoid Engl amps and I don't want a sounds factory like my old diezel einstein that I don't get all the fuss around it, it sounds good but nothing awesome and is way too much focused on low end and does not match alot of cabinets except the diezel one. Really want to avoid those amps that sound good under certain conditions.

On all I listed the orange retained my interest as its surely easy to dial in, few controls and only 2 channels and from what I know it can cover vaste tonal range from rock n roll to extreme tones.

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 02:12:30 PM »
How about the new Peavey 6505+ 1x12 combo?  It's had a great review in one of the mags this month...

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 02:28:39 PM »
Tried it out in a shop and I'm torn. It sounded ok with my eclipse but awfull with an ash bodied esp horizon. Very muddy overall, stock speaker is junk, much more than the ones in the original 5150 combo imo.  :(

I guess it's gonna be between a peavey 5150/6505 and the orange. I'm curious on the Triamp, it might sound cool but I'm always skeptic on those amps with so much controls and channels. Here in France we often say on such gear that its versality means 'it does all but nothing good'.  :P

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 04:23:16 PM »
I liked the Jet City SLO100 type head when I tried it out, would defo try one of those out - great value for money imo.

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 05:31:11 PM »
The Rockerverb has a lot of gain. The drivechannel goes from SVR to brutal, but no harsh distortion. I find the cleanchannel very good. This Orange has tone...
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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 05:38:58 PM »
How about the new Peavey 6505+ 1x12 combo?  It's had a great review in one of the mags this month...

Doesn't everything?

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2010, 05:41:41 PM »
I don't think the soldano kind of thing and the orange rockerverb are that similar. I find the orange gain tone a little loose and more fuzzy than a 6505. When i tried out oranges and peaveys I tried a bunch of rockerverbs and the 6505 and 6505+. I bought a 6505. I'd say try out a JCA100.

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 07:06:17 PM »
How about the new Peavey 6505+ 1x12 combo?  It's had a great review in one of the mags this month...

Doesn't everything?

Very true, but the 6505 have a good rep overall.
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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 10:35:27 PM »
the 6505 and JCA 100 are very distantly related are they not? the 5150 was heavily based on the SLO 100 after EVH used an SLO for "for unlawful carnel knowledge" (some might say ripped off) except peavey did them cheaper.

The JCA is basically a chinese made (heavily under the supervision of mike soldanos partner and in one factory) SLO 100. He would not put his name to a product he wasn't happy with. When i bought my HR 50 from ebay it was an unusual configuration, a 212 combo. i thought they only made heads of that. in my naiveity i emailed him a link, said i was thinking of buying it and did they make this as a combo. The man replied.. told me it was the real deal and was generally very nice, he also replied to some tech questions about the amp. I bought it second hand an the man stood, personally, behind his product and answered all my dumb questions. And his amps sound incredible.

i would go for the JCA 100. if thats too poweful they do a JCA 50 combo and head. the amp sounds better than anything else for the money. tried one out in Guitar guitar in edinburgh a couple of weeks back. it was sitting in the high end amp room with the bogners and Mesa's. It stood up there with the best of them.

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2010, 10:53:49 PM »
the 6505/5150 and indeed the Dual Rec are indeed relatives of the SLO lead circuit. certainly not the only ones though

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2010, 02:12:09 PM »
It's a good budget to get a good amp. Obviously used you could get more value for money. Based on my experience with the Triamp MkII I can confirm that it's a great amp if you're after a jack of all trades and don't care much about character. It's a good work horse. Not for me in the end.

The RV50 I have tried was nice but IMO more a vintage or alternative rock amp and a bit too lose for a good chug.

In that budget you could get some cool stuff, like just to mention a few that come to mind:
-used Cornford Mk50H (I am seriously in love with mine, and it's the "better Soldano" IMO)
-used Splawn Quickrod or Nitro from the US
-Marshall DSL100 or JVM410 or 205 or a JCM800 or JMP that you could slam with a DS-1
-the rightly mentioned JCA100H or the newer JCA50H or the one modeled after the HR100+: JH100Plus or what
-Used Thunderverb50 (tighter and meaner than the RV50)
-Egnater Renegade or if you wait a bit - soon an Armageddon
-Indeed a used Rectifier, but try, they are hit and miss. I heard good things about the tremoverbs
and many many more ...
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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2010, 06:36:00 PM »
thanks for the feedback hunter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2b0usUPTJs

that sound makes me crazy and going for the rockerverb. I'm not so into marshall amps nor mesa anymore even if I'm fond of the rectifier tone.

I'm gonna try out the orange baby tomorrow and will see what comes out from testing it in person. The triamp sounds wicked but like you say , alot of sounds to dial in, a tone factory but I'm more a two sounds man and rather like 2 good tones than 12 available under feet.
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Will tell what I've chosen and try to make decent demo for once (some miracle men coming for my esp eclipse and a nailbomb bridge for my gibson les paul :)).

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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2010, 06:41:41 PM »
oh almost forgot: Mesa Mark series, especially III and IV, wicked for heavier stuff!
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Re: Seeking an high gain amp for a NAD :)
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2010, 06:45:17 PM »
How about the new Peavey 6505+ 1x12 combo?  It's had a great review in one of the mags this month...

Doesn't everything?

Most stuff does. I think I would be pretty hacked off I bought a magazine and they had loads of sh!t in for review. I'd rather read about good stuff that I can't afford than sh!t stuff that I can afford!!  :lol:
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