String changing methods

[ElectricTurkey4369]

My guitar has been going out of tune quite a bit latley, whenever i play hard on the strings or bend, the high strings usually go flat a bit. I hear that a bad method of winding at the post can cause the string to slip out of pitch.

I change my strings this way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi01Q7d9C1c&feature=related

Anyone else do it this way?

[Telerocker]

That's why they invented Sperzels.

[ElectricTurkey4369]

That's why they invented Sperzels.

Ahhh, damn you!  :lol:

Now there's something else I want. What about Schaller tuners?

[MDV]

More or less, yeah. Minor details difer - I dont make one loop over the top of the peg, I guess the point at which to make the kink with the string pulled fully through the peg, but none of that will make any difference.

The sole real benefit of a locking tuner is that you just pull the string through and lock it down; very little winding.

The worst that you can expect (and this applies to locking and non locking tuners) is that the worm and wheel of the tuner mechanism arent engaging properly and the string can go a little flat. This has nothing to do with winding technique and can be solved with always tuning up to pitch, not down. The worst extreme is that the tuner slips, but they have to be very worn for that to happen.

You shouldnt overlap winds, as it throws off the angle of travel and the wind can move under the tension from the overlaping winds.

The most common cause of tuning problems is the nut. If your nut is gripping the string a little then when you bend, the string gets pulled through the nut and when you release it doesnt fully return to position.

Lubricate the nut (with a pencil) and if that doesnt work *very carefully* widen the slots. You cant put material back on it.

[shobet]

Anyone know if BB King goes out of tune often as I seem to recall he supposedly winds all of the string onto the tuner?

[FELINEGUITARS]

My guitar has been going out of tune quite a bit latley, whenever i play hard on the strings or bend, the high strings usually go flat a bit. I hear that a bad method of winding at the post can cause the string to slip out of pitch.

I change my strings this way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi01Q7d9C1c&feature=related

Anyone else do it this way?

Thats pretty close to how I string up and teach others to do
I use just a little more slack string - about 2 inches/5cm =width of three fingers - just slightly more than the opposing tuner thing he showed.

I do favour the one wrap over the top like he did it and with my method it gives two wraps underneath the bit of the string that passes through the hole.
Two wraps neatly stacked underneath also gives an good break angle on the nut which is good for tone and not having the string flapping about

[Jonny]

My guitar has been going out of tune quite a bit latley, whenever i play hard on the strings or bend, the high strings usually go flat a bit. I hear that a bad method of winding at the post can cause the string to slip out of pitch.

I change my strings this way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi01Q7d9C1c&feature=related

Anyone else do it this way?

Thats pretty close to how I string up and teach others to do
I use just a little more slack string - about 2 inches/5cm =width of three fingers - just slightly more than the opposing tuner thing he showed.

I do favour the one wrap over the top like he did it and with my method it gives two wraps underneath the bit of the string that passes through the hole.
Two wraps neatly stacked underneath also gives an good break angle on the nut which is good for tone and not having the string flapping about

I'm all for how Jonathan does it. And the fact that he has the best tool for winding strings as well, lol

[WezV]

pretty much the way i do it too - but i was beginning to think i was in a minority with the number i see done this way
http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/repair/electric-guitar/string-change.php

[Telerocker]

That's why they invented Sperzels.

Ahhh, damn you!  :lol:

Now there's something else I want. What about Schaller tuners?

They are good, but I replaced my Schallers with Sperzels to get more tuningstability with the trem. Sperzels are more accurate, bec less tolerance in the metalparts.

[38thBeatle]

The first vid is how I do it too.

[FELINEGUITARS]

My guitar has been going out of tune quite a bit latley, whenever i play hard on the strings or bend, the high strings usually go flat a bit. I hear that a bad method of winding at the post can cause the string to slip out of pitch.

I change my strings this way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi01Q7d9C1c&feature=related

Anyone else do it this way?

Thats pretty close to how I string up and teach others to do
I use just a little more slack string - about 2 inches/5cm =width of three fingers - just slightly more than the opposing tuner thing he showed.

I do favour the one wrap over the top like he did it and with my method it gives two wraps underneath the bit of the string that passes through the hole.
Two wraps neatly stacked underneath also gives an good break angle on the nut which is good for tone and not having the string flapping about

I'm all for how Jonathan does it. And the fact that he has the best tool for winding strings as well, lol

Here ya go Jonny !
A video clip specially made for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMhi2gQWXI4

[MDV]

My guitar has been going out of tune quite a bit latley, whenever i play hard on the strings or bend, the high strings usually go flat a bit. I hear that a bad method of winding at the post can cause the string to slip out of pitch.

I change my strings this way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi01Q7d9C1c&feature=related

Anyone else do it this way?

Thats pretty close to how I string up and teach others to do
I use just a little more slack string - about 2 inches/5cm =width of three fingers - just slightly more than the opposing tuner thing he showed.

I do favour the one wrap over the top like he did it and with my method it gives two wraps underneath the bit of the string that passes through the hole.
Two wraps neatly stacked underneath also gives an good break angle on the nut which is good for tone and not having the string flapping about

I'm all for how Jonathan does it. And the fact that he has the best tool for winding strings as well, lol

Here ya go Jonny !
A video clip specially made for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMhi2gQWXI4

Fantastic!

I opened the video thinking "Its not a drill, surely...he uses a drill doesnt he?....yep"

Retasked screwdriver? Close enough!

Good stuff.

[Ratrod]

This could be more a nut issue than a string winding issue.

If it's only a problem of the last couple of weeks it could also be the weather.

[Alex]

I have two guitars with Sperzels and can safely say that non-locking Grovers are my preferred type of tuner. Simple and reliable, they hold the tuning and fit any gauge.


EletricTurkey, make sure it's not the nut on the guitar that is causing the problems. Are the nut slots big enough for the gauge of strings you use? Or are they maybe to big or worn down?

 

EDIT: I missed Ratrod's comment - same thought as mine.

[ElectricTurkey4369]

I have two guitars with Sperzels and can safely say that non-locking Grovers are my preferred type of tuner. Simple and reliable, they hold the tuning and fit any gauge.


EletricTurkey, make sure it's not the nut on the guitar that is causing the problems. Are the nut slots big enough for the gauge of strings you use? Or are they maybe to big or worn down?

 

EDIT: I missed Ratrod's comment - same thought as mine.

Yeah, i was looking at replacing my nut anyway with a TUSQ XL, they seem to be really good. My nut at the moment is Corian...I dont know how good those are, but it feels cheap  :?