guitar racism

[Matt77]

The biggest issue I've come across seems to be towards PRS guitars.  Owners love them, lots of folk think they're flash with no substance  :roll:

No Dave it's not like that. Some of my best friends are PRSs

[Transcend]

The biggest issue I've come across seems to be towards PRS guitars.  Owners love them, lots of folk think they're flash with no substance  :roll:

i guess they do have that lawyer guitar image.. that does put me off owning one, even if i don't mind the look myself, and think they have some very interesting models.

But nothing in my opinion is worse than that shiteeeety horrible Cricket bat steinberger thing.

ah - another of my favourite guitars :D

Hehe sorry about that :P Also i agree PRS are just for posers with too much money. They do however look very nice but they aren't really a gutiar you would want to take out and gig.

I imagine if a PRS owner got a slight knock to the guitar that didn't even dent the guitar just slightly scuffed the finish that they would have a complete breakdown.

But that's just my views

[gwEm]

heres a PRS I like:

[Ian Price]

That's a nice one gwEm - I do like it.

[Philly Q]

The biggest issue I've come across seems to be towards PRS guitars.  Owners love them, lots of folk think they're flash with no substance  :roll:

i guess they do have that lawyer guitar image.. that does put me off owning one, even if i don't mind the look myself, and think they have some very interesting models.

Also i agree PRS are just for posers with too much money. They do however look very nice but they aren't really a gutiar you would want to take out and gig.

I buy PRS guitars, so I guess that's me.

But I don't think I have "too much money".  I have a job, I get paid for it.  It's more than some people get paid, a very great deal less than some other people get paid.  I don't have a big mortgage.  I don't have a family.  I don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't drink very much.  I don't go away on holidays.  I don't have a car.  I don't rack up debts buying things I can't afford.  So... "too much money"?  No.  I suppose I could think about asking for a pay cut..... but I don't think I will.

And a poser?  Hmmm... I could be called a lot of things.  I'm not cool or popular or good looking.  I'm a very bad guitar player.  I'm a terrible procrastinator.  I'm afraid of risk-taking.  I'm short-tempered.  I'm an opinionated little shite sometimes.  But a poser?  No.

Go and try some PRS guitars.  Close your eyes so you're not distracted by the pretty maple and bird inlays.  See how they feel, hear how they sound.  They're made by people who understand - and care - a lot more about what really makes a good guitar than 90% of other guitar manufacturers.


(Sorry, I know I'm being too serious.  I'm not having a go at you personally, Tony.  But the whole "lawyer guitar" thing pisses me off and these posts got me fired up.)

[Ian Price]

Well said Philly. Couldn't have said it better myself!

[Stevepage]

The biggest issue I've come across seems to be towards PRS guitars.  Owners love them, lots of folk think they're flash with no substance  :roll:

i guess they do have that lawyer guitar image.. that does put me off owning one, even if i don't mind the look myself, and think they have some very interesting models.

Also i agree PRS are just for posers with too much money. They do however look very nice but they aren't really a gutiar you would want to take out and gig.

I buy PRS guitars, so I guess that's me.

But I don't think I have "too much money".  I have a job, I get paid for it.  It's more than some people get paid, a very great deal less than some other people get paid.  I don't have a big mortgage.  I don't have a family.  I don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't drink very much.  I don't go away on holidays.  I don't have a car.  I don't rack up debts buying things I can't afford.  So... "too much money"?  No.  I suppose I could think about asking for a pay cut..... but I don't think I will.

And a poser?  Hmmm... I could be called a lot of things.  I'm not cool or popular or good looking.  I'm a very bad guitar player.  I'm a terrible procrastinator.  I'm afraid of risk-taking.  I'm short-tempered.  I'm an opinionated little shitee sometimes.  But a poser?  No.

Go and try some PRS guitars.  Close your eyes so you're not distracted by the pretty maple and bird inlays.  See how they feel, hear how they sound.  They're made by people who understand - and care - a lot more about what really makes a good guitar than 90% of other guitar manufacturers.


(Sorry, I know I'm being too serious.  I'm not having a go at you personally, Tony.  But the whole "lawyer guitar" thing pisses me off and these posts got me fired up.)

Well said mate.

I own a PRS too, I don't have alot of money and I'm not a poser. I work very hard for my money, sometimes I don't even get a lot for the amount of work I put in but I save a lot of my money. Most of my money goes on my car or paying regular things like my phone bill and rent so what I have left goes towards things I want.

I bought the PRS because it's a very very well made guitar that's incredibly comfortable to play and sounds amazing. Why wouldn't I buy it? and it's not even a fancy looking guitar, it has dot inlays and a plain mahogany body. I'd love one of the new Custom 24's but that's money I can't spend.

[gwEm]

(Sorry, I know I'm being too serious.  I'm not having a go at you personally, Tony.  But the whole "lawyer guitar" thing pisses me off and these posts got me fired up.)

Apologies for bringing up the whole lawyer thing. I have to say I was similarly fired up by the whole anti-V discussions I've had over the last week hence my first post.

[PhilKing]

I have no guitars I hate, but I would never consider getting one of the Razorback or Warlock styles of guitars, as they really do nothing for me.  I do have a couple of Mockingbirds though and also an Explorer and Firebird (and Thunderbird bass).   I've had V's in the past and will probably end up with one again at some point.  I don't play out much anymore, but the last time I did I was using a PRS Standard and a 1953 Les Paul conversion.  I know some of the PRS guitars are ridiculous (the Dragon series), but the majority are really nice guitars (I have 4 and I am looking at a couple more!).  I tried a Dean Soltero but didn't like it enough to buy it (though I like the design).  I also like the Collings electric range, but the prices are higher the PRS's (interesting that no-one calls them lawyers guitars).  When I was younger I wasn't keen on Tele's (having only played 70's ones), but then I tried a 50's and it was great.  Since then I have found that they are great for many sounds and styles.  You have to try the guitar to see if it works for you.  

[Philly Q]

(Sorry, I know I'm being too serious.  I'm not having a go at you personally, Tony.  But the whole "lawyer guitar" thing pisses me off and these posts got me fired up.)

Apologies for bringing up the whole lawyer thing. I have to say I was similarly fired up by the whole anti-V discussions I've had over the last week hence my first post.

No apologies needed, G.  It's good to vent. 

[dave_mc]

I'm no gigantic fan of PRS, but I agree with what philly's saying. I mean you can pick up a PRS for less than a grand now. I'm not saying that's pocket change, and if you're on the breadline you're not affording it (but then again if you're on the breadline you're not affording non-lawyer guitars either), but most people anywhere around average wage could easily afford one if they were willing to do without something else (smoking or drinking being the two obvious ones). If you're not willing to give that up, that's fair enough, but don't act like (at least some of the) PRS owners have some kind of extra income if they don't smoke or drink.

I disagree with disregarding a guitar because of how it looks or how you think it'll sound. It just doesn't make much sense. No-one's saying you have to buy it, but some people act like it'll affect their good name if they even so much as try it... :lol:

Also I thought this thread was about where guitars were made. Good job it wasn't, that's a much more involved discussion :lol:

[mikeluke]

Interesting comment about PRS not being 'gigging' guitars - I have a Custom 22 - will do Les Paul & fair Strat sounds, rock solid tuning and very comfortable to wear/play - if I had to pick one of mine to play a gig with, I'd go for the PRS over my LP, Strats or SG

Mike

[Transcend]

Whoa i didn't expect such a big response to that :P

I wasn't meaning to offend anyone i was just commenting on people that i know who own PRS.

And i have played them and to be honest they dont really do anything for me. I can admit that they are well made guitars but they aren't much use to me and the people i know who own them do have too much money :P.

Then again i have only played the £1600+ PRS guitars and just found them to not be any good for me.

I think the main thing i dislike is the odd bridges and overall odd look of the guitars (i do however like the finishes)

Sorry again Philly and anyone else i may have offended

[ericsabbath]

I wouldn't BUY a PRS unless it was cheap, but I'm already in my second McCarty that I got in trades
it's a wonderful guitar and plays really well, but I still love Les Pauls better, although the McCarty is more resonant and open sounding
this guitar was heavily beaten up and had the neck pulled out from the neck joint and reglued twice and it's still far better than 95% of the guitars I've played, including the other mint condition 2001 McCarty I had (this one is a '96)

my main guitar is still my '73 Les Paul Custom, though
best and thinnest les paul neck I've seen (thinner than the slim taper profile)
it's a very dense, focused and huge sounding les paul, but no near as resonant, loud and organic sounding as the PRS

[ShredHeadJHJ]

i can't imagine some one being anti- les paul, stratocaster or SG for example. anyone else been in such a situation?

Man, I hatehatehate SG's.

Strats have their place.
SuperStrats have their place.
Les Pauls have their place.
Teles have their place.
Flying Vs have their place.
Explorers have their place.

SGs are just fugly as hell, and they don't do anything soundwise you can't do with at least half of the guitars mentioned.