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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2011, 09:40:02 PM »
Hummm interesting... How did you get it glued properly then? Epoxy glue?

I've been told time and time again that a few good wipes with Acetone before gluing will take care of this problem. It pull the oils out of the wood near the surface. I am very curious to hear what Wez ended up doing though. :)

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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2011, 10:20:15 PM »
i have not done the bocote neck yet - but thats pretty much what i will do.

but some people wipe then glue straight away and wonder why they have problems down the line... gotta make sure the solvent is gassed off before glueing and not do it straight away!!!  but those oils can start reappearing after a few hours on some pieces. Repeating the process a few hours apart will get rid of more oil and slow its return.  but wood varies so its just taking the time to make sure you are free of solvent and oil and you can use epoxy or normal yellow wood glue like titebond

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then you forget one time and it reminds you not to do it again.


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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2011, 03:08:06 PM »
done a test fit on the doubleneck before finish sanding kicks into high gear


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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2011, 06:41:53 PM »
Forgotten this one. It's not an instrument I'd actually want personally but, unlike many that fall into that category, there's something about this one that really appeals to me for looking at... I think it looks great.

You still going for the ocean blue? I have a nasty feeling I'll find it less appealing when it's finished - but then I've never owned or even considered owning a blue guitar (nothing against them, there's several sexy blue guitars on here that I know of, but sit it next to a red one of the same make and I'd never even think of touching the blue one :lol:)


By the way - how does a thing like this work amp-wise? Do you give it two output jacks or do you leave it up to the player to figure out how to amplify it?
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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2011, 09:24:39 PM »
its getting an XLR output which will go to a splitter box with foot switches to activate each neck, it wont ever be used with the same amp - so it doesnt need the option of a single output

i dont want two leads coming from it, which is what i was originally considering with a rick-o-sound style output scheme where one leads plugs in and everything goes through that, or its stereo with 2 leads plugged in

the other option was to use an ordinary stereo cable which could still use the splitter box idea or a Y-cable to each amp.   but the XLR will allow more options with the grounding scheme if i have noise issues

anyway - there is a recessed output section to hide the xlr socket

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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2011, 09:49:19 PM »
the balance shot - resting in the palm of my hand and unsupported


and weight is currently 11lbs

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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2011, 09:59:52 PM »
Very nice! :)

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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2011, 10:04:43 PM »
It looks like it needs longer scale bass strings - the low E is still furry at the nut (no sly comments from Afghan Dave please!)?

I guess with the bass pickups it will be a 12lb job - not that far removed from one of Ben's misnamed Agiles!  

Do the last 2 machines (low D, G), need string guides to keep the strings off the 5th position (high D, G)?  It's hard to tell - is the length enough to keep them clear.  The headstock shapes look great.
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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2011, 10:19:40 PM »
these are just spare strings to check alignment and stuff

i have not drilled the string ferrules yet which should give the extra 1/4" needed for the string wrap to be past the nut and of course there is the option of top loading the strings with this bridge

not sure on the last 2 tuners yet as i only have 6 strings on, i certainly drew it to miss but it does look close ??? will move some strings around to check

The finish, pickups and controls will all add weight - if it becomes an issue then i reckon different tuners could make quite a difference  ( i will weigh them when i dismantle)... but these hipshots do look cool


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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2011, 06:52:10 AM »
11lbs with most of the hardware? That's pretty good if you ask me. That Wenge thing of mine that's waiting on funds for completion is at 10 with nothing at all on it. You have TWO necks. :lol:
It's lookin good, man. Lookin good. I think the blue you were planning for is still a winner. It'll sync up with those inlays.

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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2011, 12:59:21 PM »
Ah! XLR - I forgot about those, nice one.

That balancing pic looks fab.

11-12lbs, eh?

Philly's gonna think it's a deal-breaker... But it's not Philly!! That's only 6lbs an instrument - how many basses have you had that weigh in as low as 6lb? :lol:
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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2011, 01:03:16 PM »
11-12lbs, eh?

Philly's gonna think it's a deal-breaker... But it's not Philly!! That's only 6lbs an instrument - how many basses have you had that weigh in as low as 6lb? :lol:

It's an absolute deal-breaker.  Unless you slice it in half down the middle...!  :P

Looks good, though.
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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2011, 01:15:29 PM »
That balancing pic looks fab.


since the balance point seems to be so close to where the strap button will be i am hopeful the thing will stay in one place when hung on a strap.   A bit of weight is fine if you dont have to fight it

i am not guaranteeing it coming in at a final 12lbs - be nice if its close but on an instrument this size even the lacquer could make a significant difference!!

we did swap from 30g chrome knobs to 5g ebony ones - amazing the difference it makes when you have 7 of them to fit on the guitar

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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2011, 01:38:30 PM »
we did swap from 30g chrome knobs to 5g ebony ones - amazing the difference it makes when you have 7 of them to fit on the guitar

I did something similar with the tuner buttons on my Thinline Tele, swapped them for pearloid ones - it was ridiculously neck-heavy before.

That balancing pic looks fab.


since the balance point seems to be so close to where the strap button will be i am hopeful the thing will stay in one place when hung on a strap.   A bit of weight is fine if you dont have to fight it

i am not guaranteeing it coming in at a final 12lbs - be nice if its close but on an instrument this size even the lacquer could make a significant difference!!

It does look very well-balanced, but I still think I'd be conscious of all that weight!  When I (briefly) had that Tokai Love Rock II it was fairly well-balanced on a strap... but sitting down, when the body wasn't trying to dive towards the floor it felt like it was cutting off the circulation in my leg.  :? :wink:  Shame, because it was a really nice guitar.

Was it Jonathan on here who said the paint can add about half a pound to a finished guitar?
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Re: nice to have a couple of days for guitar building again
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2011, 11:41:48 PM »
Since it's not an all night guitar, the weight won't be an issue.  I used to gig with a Les Paul (though I was a lot younger!).   

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