VHT amps

[Ibanez2570z]

I quite fancy getting a VHT amp. What do people suggest? Some may even suggest don't bother but for those that do I will look forward to your replies. Can you split answers into well if its a combo then this and for a head I'd suggest this.

Just fancying something a bit different from what ive got which is an orange cabinet and engl screamer head. Roland cube for a practice amp.

[psy]

I don't really have a suggestion, but just though you should know VHT sold their name a couple of years ago.  The current VHT is a different company with a different product line.

What was VHT is now Fryette Amplification http://www.sfdamp.com/  :)

[Jonny]

I am one of the last people to grab hold on a VHT Pitbull 50 right before they changed to Fryette.

I am one lucky bar-steward :B

[Ibanez2570z]

The verdict of fryette?.....Yeah well might be an idea to save my pennies then for the time being. Got to get central heating in my new house anyway lol

[MDV]

Get your priorities right

Buy the amp

Besides, amps make heat.

[Ibanez2570z]

True- Not sure what I want though seen as how it appears as though in the UK pitbulls might be difficult to get hold of.

[MDV]

They are, yes. But they arent the only thing out there.

I know guitarguitar stocked VHT, maybe they've restocked by now since the brand change (the amps are the same btw)

[Ibanez2570z]

I thought the above person was implying that since the change they now suck in comparison. Perhaps I read between the lines with walleye vision.   Guitar guitar don't appear to stock VHT/FREYETTE.
Not to be too narrow minded what else does one suggest even though the subject title is VHT.

Yes I will try in a shop when I get around to it or may even order blind seen as how I can't make up my bloody mind :P

[psy]

Nah, I just thought I'd mention it in case you were looking at the current VHT site & wondering where all the Pitbulls etc. had vanished to :)

Shame Guitar Guitar don't stock them any more.  I got my 2/90/2 from them when they had loads of the VHT stuff on sale just after the name change.

http://www.stormshadowtoneworks.co.uk/  seem to be the only UK dealer of Freyette now.  Not sure if they have any bricks & mortar shops though.

[gordiji]

the screamer is great amp for the price, very versatile and the only thing i don't like about it is that the tube sockets
are pcb mounted(weaker structurally) .
sometimes i have the urge to change or more like 'upgrade' but the problem for me is to find something with a great
CLEAN, crunch and overdrive(with chassis mounted sockets)
i've looked at the supersonic fender 22 which seems great but maybe not enough poke for you?
i've looked at the cornford mk series which is in another category.
i don't think there's much better in the price range of the screamer without giving something up( eg less great cleans traded off for a better overdrive etc).
the koch twintone's worth a look too.
just to remember how good it can sound(even on youtube)
"http://www.youtube.com/v/BCHueoawVsc?

[Ibanez2570z]

Demo sounds awesome. Maybe I need to think along the lines of experimenting with the tubes in it instead but don't know what is required. I am sure it is not massively difficult but I'd prefer advice on what tubes may sound awesome / configuration. Anyone willing to try fitting these once ordered for a six pack ( meanwhile nods at MDV).

[Dmoney]

I was looking at the deliverance and wondered how well does the Depth control works? Anyone played one?
I'm told it has a different kind of output stage. sorta like some Orange amps rather than Marshall. It means the depth has to work differently to a depth on something like a 5150. I just wondered if its depth and pres worked the same as any other amp with a depth & pres in terms of effectiveness or response etc.

[MDV]

I dont know about the deliverance - I've played a 60, but not used the depth control on it. The CL, the depth is much more subtle than on my PB, which has strengths and drawbacks; its much harder to make it unuseable (which is easy with the PB), but its not as effective at imparting very low volume thickness and kick

[Dmoney]

cool. thats a nice little bit of info... cheers!

[darkbluemurder]

I'm told it has a different kind of output stage. sorta like some Orange amps rather than Marshall.

I have seen retroengineered schematics of that amp. It uses a cathodyne phase inverter, similar to the Orange amps. Marshalls generally use a long tailed pair phase inverter so your understanding is correct.

It means the depth has to work differently to a depth on something like a 5150. I just wondered if its depth and pres worked the same as any other amp with a depth & pres in terms of effectiveness or response etc.

From what I have seen the presence decouples the high frequencies in the negative feedback loop whereas the depth decouples the low frequencies in the negative feedback loop. This means these controls work in the same way as on any other amp that has them. The phase inverter type is irrelevant insofar, and so are output tubes and circuitry apart from the existence of a negative feedback loop. Amps without negative feedback (e.g. Vox AC 30 just to name the most prominent example) cannot have presence or depth controls. Similar controls can be employed by other technical means though (e.g. a cut control).