Do yourself a favor and buy a few BONE ,IVORY or follisied wood pics you'll be surprised to hear the tone that comes from these new pics...That's why the old pics looked like TORTISE SHELL is hard as a rock and gave out a great tone...BONE does the same but I grabbed an IVORY one and it is to die for.Ya barely have to touch the stringI promise you'lll ove it....there's a guy on ebay sells ya 10 bone pics for 10 bucks and ya get 5 other different others free. one is stone and sounds GREAT !!!!!I'm in love with these BONE pics PLEASE TRY EMJamesThanks again for putting up that linkST James