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Twinfan

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What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« on: May 04, 2011, 03:23:04 PM »
Yep, the 80s have finally reached the TF household  :lol:

I went to see Simon McBride on Sunday night with Matt77 and shobet, and I was really impressed with the switching system he was using.  He had a tuner and MIDI controller out front, and a small number of presets to get his variety of tones.  A much, much nicer solution to my cramped pedalboard/mass of cables/Bogner XTC footswitch combo  :roll:

So, a bit of research over Bank Holiday Monday and I've picked up the following RJM producs from Sounds Great:

RG-16 effects loop and amp switching controller:



Mastermind MIDI footswitch:



Bogner XTC interface cable:



7-pin MIDI cable:



Using all the above, I can control the amp functions AND select effects simultaneously.  All the power will be located by the amp, with the MIDI cable phantom powering the footswitch and a thin power supply extension lead powering the other pedals.  That means only 4 cables to set up and a much smaller out-front stage footprint.  Result!

The plan is to layout the rig as follows:

Very simple pedalboard:
BBE Wah
Tuner
Klone OD
MXR EVH Phase 90
Mastermind MIDI controller

If the switching rig or XTC goes down, I can still use the Wah/Tuner/OD/Phaser straight into the XTC/AFD100 to get through a gig.

Rack case:
RG-16 switcher
9v pedal power supply
Malekko Chorus (before amp)
Empress ParaEQ (before amp)
MXR Carbon Copy delay (XTC FX loop)
Malekko Chicklet reverb (XTC FX loop)

All the pedals will be installed in separate loops for independent access.  For my first bank of 5 presets, I’m going to hook up my main tones:

Clean – green channel, boost off, chorus, EQ, FX loop on, delay, reverb
Rhythm (dry) – blue channel, boost off, EQ, FX loop off
Rhythm (wet) – blue channel, boost on, EQ, FX loop on, reverb
Lead (dry) – red channel, boost off, EQ, FX loop off
Lead (wet) – red channel, boost off, EQ, FX loop on, delay, reverb

It should be fun this evening setting all that lot up.  I'll then just need to get hold of a 4U rack case, probably one of these:



It looks like I'm turning into Hunter!  :lol:  :D

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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2011, 03:26:47 PM »
I can't even begin to understand all that (the mere sight of the word "MIDI" and my brain freezes), but it sounds like a bit of a sea change!
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Twinfan

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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2011, 04:07:00 PM »
Well, it's actually less complicated than it looks.  What I'm effectively doing is using the same amp/pedals that I've always used, but I can link them all together to give me combined amp/pedal presets.

It's a modern solution to old-skool tone  ;)

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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2011, 05:03:55 PM »
You lost me at "switching". You mean amps can have more than one channel these days? :) Good 'eavens. Sounds like a great system for the gigging guitarist though.

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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2011, 05:16:01 PM »
Oh christ, he's got a new hobby.  Something had to replace the guitars  :lol:
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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2011, 05:49:07 PM »
Very nice.  Before you know it you will be geting lots of rack preamps, rack tuner, rack power amp and building one big robot.

Will be intrested to here how the Switcher and midi controller works out for you.


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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2011, 06:30:25 PM »
Cool... I think we can all blame the H man! I've been seriously impressed with his new set up and am thinking of going down that route too.

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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2011, 06:50:28 PM »
Oh dear!

I've an ADA MP-1 if you want to borrow one. ;)
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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2011, 06:51:59 PM »
Very nice.  Before you know it you will be geting lots of rack preamps, rack tuner, rack power amp and building one big robot.

Will be intrested to here how the Switcher and midi controller works out for you.




too right, this is the beginning of one beautiful relationship with one's rack. You'll shoot up from A cup to double Ds very shortly!
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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2011, 07:37:15 PM »
I've been admiring those for a while. Don't have anywhere near enough gear to justify so many loops but one would almost definitely feature in my "oh look, I just found a blank cheque lying on the street" rig.

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2011, 08:08:13 PM »
strange people talk about themselves in the 3rd person.
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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2011, 08:48:03 PM »

Dave,

I have a SKB 4U Rack for sale if you are interested?

PM me if you still need one.....

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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2011, 09:11:05 PM »
I am with Philly on this one-I wouldn't know where to start.
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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2011, 10:09:46 PM »
Cheers Tom - I'll PM you!

Mr38th/PhillyQ - it took me about half an hour to set the whole thing up, including presets, so ANYONE can do it!  :lol:

What a superb piece of kit.  Complete control over my amp and stomp boxes with the touch of a button - the same old rig but easier to control.

I think I'm gonna like this!  :D

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Re: What's the world coming to? Twinfan's getting racked :0O
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2011, 10:48:08 PM »
Looks complicated, maybe it's not, but I stick to my board and the vol. and toneknob on the guitars.
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