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NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« on: May 29, 2011, 05:51:48 PM »
my young lady was shopping on Regent Street, so I went over to Denmark Street to pass some time. Tried a heritage '58 V reissue from 1983 which was really nice, but somewhat pricey at £3.8k.. i also tried a renecked 70s les paul deluxe, which i really liked the look of, since it has quite a plain maple top with a non-blingy looking sunburst, bags of sustain and a bit of a bargain at £1250 i reckon. anyway, i resisted both of them but couldn't resist this! it was a hell of a lot cheaper, and i had a right laugh playing it in the store! i probably paid slightly over the odds for it at £500, since shes lead a hard life, but shes still very playable.

so its a 1978 Fender Musicmaster, rosewood board (heavily worn!!) the shop had just refretted it - i bet they were utterly shot before. nicely worn body in my favourite colour, single neck pickup, 24" scale

its all pretty original - original neck, tuners, pickguard and electronics. though as i say the fingerboard is heavily worn, which you can't see on the picture. i should have seen it in the shop - but the bridge is at a weird angle. i whipped it off this afternoon, and its been fitted in about three different positions. i figured i'd just leave it where it is for now. the saddles screws were on there last legs, so i swapped two of the saddle for compensating tele saddles that i had knocking around - i don't think the brass suits the tone of the guitar, but it sounds alot better anyway, since the intonation was pretty bad, partly since the screws were a bit seized up and hard to adjust. i've also changed it from modern to vintage wiring.

so yeah, it is what is - a beat up musicmaster. its a fun play. the neck pickup isn't ideal for riffing, though its bright enough to just about get away with it. i wonder about cutting in a bridge pickup. but i might just leave it for now - its great for practising leads.
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 06:51:52 PM »
very nice :)

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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 07:35:21 PM »
Not quite my cup of tea, but I can see the attraction of an old Fender as a bit of a novelty purchase with some genuine vintage mojo.

But what the hell were they doing with that bridge?  Why would it ever need to be moved?  :?
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 08:30:09 PM »
But what the hell were they doing with that bridge?  Why would it ever need to be moved?  :?
well indeed.. i couldn't look at it any longer so i pulled it off and put it in a position parallel to the scratchplate. i also changed that last saddle for a compensated one. its actually improved the sound - possibly because they'd put a plastic washer(!) under the bridge too, which i've now removed. the sound is raw, good sustain, i think because of only one pickup.
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 12:57:33 PM »
must be the month for those guitars - one of my mates just got one and is transforming it into something gigworthy.  he's adding a bridge pickup and making it into somewhat of a Jaguar.

I reckon a humbucker or P90 at the bridge would go a long way towards making that a useful guitar.

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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 01:02:02 PM »
Nice guitar.  My first Fender was a Musicmaster back in 1972.  I've been thinking about getting one for Nashville tuning, because of the short scale.  I'm sure you'll like it.  You will probably find the body is routed for 2 pickups.  I was going to put a bridge HB in mine years ago, but ended up trading it for a Strat.
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 05:38:03 PM »
Musicmasters and duosonics had the same body routing - 2 x single coil - this could be fun for you gwEm if you want to add a second pickup/new pickguard.

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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 07:10:26 PM »
Well, it is a bit weird but I think it is very "you" :D

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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 11:07:33 PM »
the 50s and 60s ones were routed for two pickups, but they only did musicmasters in the 70s, and they were only routed for the neck.

nevertheless i am toying with adding something in the bridge...

the tones not bad in fact, im finding can solo endlessly with it.
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 12:15:58 AM »
Congrats. Not a piece I'm gassing on, but if you're a collectioneur, it should be a nice addition to your collection.
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 08:42:25 AM »
Congrats. Not a piece I'm gassing on, but if you're a collectioneur, it should be a nice addition to your collection.

this is definately a players guitar rather than a collectors  :D i intend to throw down with it!
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2011, 10:38:26 PM »
Jane's brother has one of these. It looks pretty cool but last time I saw it it was strung with steel acoustic strings  :? Also, the nut had been cracked on the bottom E so it only has 5 strings.  :? :?
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2011, 12:04:10 PM »
couldn't resist any longer and just ordered two Irish Tours, one with a baseplate.

next i'm going to go and buy a router(!)
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2011, 12:23:23 PM »
how do you guys reckon i should cut in the bridge pickup??

like this:


or this?
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Re: NGD - another CBS Fender (bit of fun)
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2011, 12:34:19 PM »
also, trying to figure out how far from the bridge i should cut it..

duosonic bridge pickups are meant to sound even more thin and cr@ppy than normal, the neck pickup is already unexpectedly bright
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you wouldn't use the meat knife on crusty bread but, equally, the serrated knife and straight edge knife aren't going to go through raw meat as quickly