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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2011, 08:18:22 PM »
...people use the word 'tragedy' but when you see more than 90 people lose their lives in Norway just because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, somehow AW just seems somewhat of an irrelevance....


My thoughts exactly!

Sympathy isn't finite. I've shed a metaphorical tear for both sad events. The loss of any and all life is tragic.
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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2011, 08:24:08 PM »
Demise of Amy "GG Allin" Whinehouse
Your music will never be as hard as this!

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2011, 08:27:33 PM »
I don't think Amy Winehouse and GG Allin really went about their business in similar ways.

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2011, 08:52:10 PM »
The pathetic public "Grief Carnival" is in full effect in Camden now... People leaving flowers & lighting candles while posing for pictures I find hard enough to stomach but...

LEAVING GODDAM BOTTLES OF BOOZE! ?

Why not a wrap of heroin and a syringe for good measure?

I'm SO close to throwing in the towel in my efforts to understand what the f**k has happened to the people in this country I used to love.

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2011, 08:57:11 PM »

I'm SO close to throwing in the towel in my efforts to understand what the f**k has happened to the people in this country I used to love.


The media combined with the digital age. Many people simply believe what they read and don't waste their energy on at least trying to read between the lines. It all adds up to an increasingly poor society where media 'darlings' are held up as the pinnacle of human life form. Very sad indeed.
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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2011, 09:27:20 PM »
I don't think Amy Winehouse and GG Allin really went about their business in similar ways.

i know they did
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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2011, 10:10:43 PM »

I think it's very sad.  Before Winehouse female pop stars were all shitee but she brought some old school soul back to the charts and got a a lot of kids back into decent music again.   I'm not sure what's wrong with people leaving flowers for a woman who has died.  I wasn't a fan myself, but she had a good voice and a few good records and I'd be a massive hypocrite to say anything about her being a junkie with the amount of people in my record collection who were junkies too.

 




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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2011, 10:17:15 PM »
The pathetic public "Grief Carnival" is in full effect in Camden now... People leaving flowers & lighting candles while posing for pictures I find hard enough to stomach but...

LEAVING GODDAM BOTTLES OF BOOZE! ?

Why not a wrap of heroin and a syringe for good measure?

I'm SO close to throwing in the towel in my efforts to understand what the f**k has happened to the people in this country I used to love.

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You'll be fine, just keep reading the Daily Mail :D

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2011, 10:24:35 PM »
The pathetic public "Grief Carnival" is in full effect in Camden now... People leaving flowers & lighting candles while posing for pictures I find hard enough to stomach but...

LEAVING GODDAM BOTTLES OF BOOZE! ?

Why not a wrap of heroin and a syringe for good measure?

I'm SO close to throwing in the towel in my efforts to understand what the f**k has happened to the people in this country I used to love.

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You don't have to love the people to love the country.

Afghan Dave

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2011, 10:27:08 PM »
...got a a lot of kids back into decent music again. 

Ya think...Really?  :?

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2011, 08:55:42 AM »
We were playing in Oxford at the time this was announced. I think it must have been our outrageous set that killed her. It nearly killed me, anyway!

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2011, 09:29:18 AM »
Hmmm...

When I posted, it was just after hearing the news and I was really sad "for her". I still am, but obviously it's worn off somewhat now, I didn't know her personally, life goes on, etc...

As to whether she deserves or is about to achieve "legendary" status - I really don't give a monkey's. I didn't feel it necessary to buy her CDs before, but I always thought I might get round to it (same as Billie Holliday and various other artistes that fill the same sort of hole). Possibly, the idea of comparing her to Jimi Hendrix on a forum populated by guitarists is a bit of a mistake, but I saw exactly what nfe meant, and I tend to agree with him. Outside the world of guitaring, Jimi Hendrix is NOT the huge legend we all regard him as - to the rest of the world he's some bloke that played guitar in the sixties and died in a possibly self-destructive manner. I personally regard him as hugely important, influential, etc, but the normal human beings (non-guitarists) that I know do not see him in that light at all.

There's also a generational thing involved here if we get into discussions about "worthiness" for legendary status. I had arguments with my parents over comparisons between Jimi Hendrix and Elvis and Buddy Holly (this was on the 10th Anniversary of his death, btw, seemed important stuff to me, but in hindsight it was just a marketing opportunity). They'd only heard of Hendrix because of me, and couldn't see any redeeming features in the music he made! They did not see that he'd done anything to "further" anything in comparison to what E and BH had done. As I got older, I found myself in the same boat as them - I don't know or remember when he died, but I found myself feeling "what is all this fuss about this tuneless tw@t Kurt Cobain? - so, he shot himself, get over it...". I wouldn't usually express that out loud, because I realise loads of people did find something very important in him and his music - and the fact I didn't and still don't does not make them wrong. Equally, now, there are people who think that Amy Winehouse's music was more important to them than some old gits long dead.


What makes me sad is a talented individual has gone. It seems she wasn't a very happy girl. I don't feel sad for her for how it ended, I feel sad for the sad girl and whatever it is she went through in her life to get her there. I know what that sh1t feels like - we ALL do - but somehow I managed to cope with it, somehow I've never been attracted by the idea of alcohol or drugs representing any sort of solution, somehow I managed to hold back from ending everything myself and can no longer see how on earth I might have thought it was a good idea.

I'm sad for the girl that for some reason represents all that to me. The day before she died, she didn't represent any of that. It took her dying for it to do that. And in a few days it will pass easily and I'll forget all about it.  :(
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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2011, 10:27:50 AM »
Whether she is "worthy" of legend status or not is pointless to discuss, really. You can bet your granddad's handlestache that she WILL have it whether you like it or not.

It's the same bloody thing that happens every time someone dies, and it's not going to change anytime soon. All of a sudden everyone's a fan, saying "RIP Amy" on their various social sites, blah-di-blah-di-blaaah. Labels will push some commemorative releases down people's throats, unreleased b-sides and scr@pped rarities will be released and so on and on. And worst of all, people will start putting her on a pedestal and forget the fact that her undeniably sad and untimely demise was ultimately her own fault due to poor lifestyle choices. That's the REAL tragedy in my opinion; Famous people that die get relegated to some quasi-saint status, and the poor buggers are never allowed to truly rest in peace. Not as long as labels can make money off them.

Yeah, I'm a cynical old git, I know.

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2011, 11:57:41 AM »
Which is precisely why the best thing that could happen to Macca is for him to take his shitety self off to some deserted island and die alone so we don't have to be abused by cretinous lumps playing the $%&#ing frog chorus on repeat when he finally pops his clogs. There are very few people of whom I think 'the world would have been a much better place had you not been born', but macca, all traffic wardens and Robert Mugabe are up there...

As for Amy, well I don't know her, I have no feelings on the matter other than it's obviously going to be sad for the family, and a shame that so many people seem to 'care' such that it makes newspaper headlines.

Dealing with grief in private is bad enough. To have that grief laid out in the tabloids? No thanks.

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Re: Amy Don't Need No Rehab Anymore
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2011, 12:44:40 PM »
It won't be the Frog Chorus, Roo. Obviously, it might pop up once or twice, but it's not the worst thing that could happen...

There'll be some Beatles stuff, and lots of clips of lovable moptops from Help and Hard Day's Night...

However, I strongly suspect that the song we all really have to fear on that day will be "Ebony and Ivory".

And every tribute program will have The Long And Winding Road in it, and they'll all have The End from Abbey Road on the closing shot (a freeze frame of a young mop-top McCartney, possibly even pre-beatles, and the caption showing the years).

Yep, you're going to have to unplug your telly and radio (and not buy a paper) for at least two weeks! :lol:
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