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Doug bores up another Orange demo
« on: August 04, 2011, 10:45:12 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZGh1xNZE5k&feature=channel_video_title

I'd really like to know who signed this doucher to be their demo guy. Everything he touches, he turns boring and sterile. Watching any more than 2 videos of this guy, in a row, will make you want to put a bullet through your face every time he uses the phrase "and it sounds great."

Compare that to the ProGuitarShop demo of the TH30 (same gain stage as the Dark Terror).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Akwf5sLk-o
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 10:55:29 AM »
the TH30 sounds better than the Dark Terror in those demos. Have you seen schems of the two?
I was just wondering how the power switching worked in the two, if it was doing pentode/triode switching, but they ain't, which is good.

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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 11:24:57 AM »
I  have an original Tiny Terror schematic laying around. Pretty simple.
Orange claims that the Dark Terror has an identical gain stage to the TH30's dirty channel.

I've played both of them, and the Dark Terror has a slightly more boring power stage, as the transformers are cheap.
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 11:27:32 AM »
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 11:35:40 AM »
ive seen the original tiny terror schem. ive not seen the TH30 one. I wondered if the Dark Terror might have been along the same lines as the Phaez Daisycutter. Using a cathodyne PI to free up a preamp triode to be used to add gain. Older bigger oranges had cathodynes, so i thought it might be possible. I wonder how well the loop works. I thought a lot of the gain tone came from the EL84's getting pushed, at least in the original tiny terror. So a loop before the output stage might not be ideal, depending on what someone is using the amp for. Can't really add a loop after the output though. I know the gain and loop were added according to customer request. The transformers might be cheap but they should be ok. I know the head Tech at orange pays attention to what goes into those amps, it's not just some bean counter.
I wouldn't be surprised if the output transformer from a Dark Terror is the same size as a Mesa Single Recto OT.

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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 11:42:09 AM »
Found it.
http://i.imgur.com/7VDmq.jpg

cheers for that. not seen this for a while.
interesting use of a cross-line frequency cut for the tone control.

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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 01:12:08 PM »
Haven't been able to find a TH30 schem. They're too new, I think.
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 10:39:09 PM »
I watched the Doug Doppler clip and didn't think it was that bad.... but good lord, that TH30 demo sounds great.  :o
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 11:00:11 PM »
That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL. 

The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.


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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 11:10:35 PM »
That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL. 

The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.

 :lol:  I dare to comment on an amp thread for once.... and get it arse over tit again!

Oh well, they're only YouTube clips, eh?
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 05:42:23 AM »
The TH30 does sound great in real, too. I am still very tempted for real low volume playing. Great little amp indeed!!
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 06:30:51 AM »
I  have an original Tiny Terror schematic laying around. Pretty simple.
Orange claims that the Dark Terror has an identical gain stage to the TH30's dirty channel.

I've played both of them, and the Dark Terror has a slightly more boring power stage, as the transformers are cheap.

Where did you get to try a dark terror?  I don't know any store that has one yet.  At least not in the US. 
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 09:15:36 AM »
That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL. 

The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.

 :lol:  I dare to comment on an amp thread for once.... and get it arse over tit again!

Oh well, they're only YouTube clips, eh?

Blame your speakers  :lol:
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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 11:20:19 AM »
That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL. 

The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.

 :lol:  I dare to comment on an amp thread for once.... and get it arse over tit again!

Oh well, they're only YouTube clips, eh?

Blame your speakers  :lol:

Worse... headphones.

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Re: Doug bores up another Orange demo
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 12:24:41 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZGh1xNZE5k&feature=channel_video_title

I'd really like to know who signed this doucher to be their demo guy. Everything he touches, he turns boring and sterile. Watching any more than 2 videos of this guy, in a row, will make you want to put a bullet through your face every time he uses the phrase "and it sounds great."

Compare that to the ProGuitarShop demo of the TH30 (same gain stage as the Dark Terror).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Akwf5sLk-o

They should have got Phil X to review it  :lol:
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