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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2011, 05:51:25 AM »
What about the modular series from Egnater and Randall. Gives you plenty of flexibillity with the push of a button.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2011, 06:34:50 AM »
Thats fair enough, I do know what you mean.  For me it's not a problem as I like my 'clean' quite dirty (crunchy) - it also adds weight to your tone when playing live.

Same here, it works way better for me especially live. The other guitarist I used to play with always had a dedicated clean channel and to me it sounded really sterile and thin when the rest of the band kicked in. FWIW I played in a cover band for about 4 years with a single channel amp, an overdrive pedal and a wah, using guitar volume for cleans. Never felt like I needed more. Everyone's different though I suppose.

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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2011, 05:44:28 PM »
Thats fair enough, I do know what you mean.  For me it's not a problem as I like my 'clean' quite dirty (crunchy) - it also adds weight to your tone when playing live.

Same here, it works way better for me especially live. The other guitarist I used to play with always had a dedicated clean channel and to me it sounded really sterile and thin when the rest of the band kicked in. FWIW I played in a cover band for about 4 years with a single channel amp, an overdrive pedal and a wah, using guitar volume for cleans. Never felt like I needed more. Everyone's different though I suppose.

I also find that riding the guitar's volume gives you more control over dynamics - its a dying art with all these unnecessary (imo) multi-channel amps.  Two channels is the most I'd ever want and only then it would be if I needed quick clean/dirty switching (think Nirvana).







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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2011, 09:32:58 PM »
Two channels is the most I'd ever want and only then it would be if I needed quick clean/dirty switching (think Nirvana).

For this situation it's easily done with a Gibson-style guitar.. neck pickup with volume rolled down for cleans and bridge on full for the dirty, use the selector switch instead of a footswitch :) On a Les Paul I find it really easy and natural to do with the positioning of the toggle switch.

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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2011, 10:21:26 PM »
(think Nirvana).
I prefer never to think Nirvana...
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What about the modular series from Egnater and Randall. Gives you plenty of flexibillity with the push of a button.
Randall is as good as unavailable round here. I wouldn't have a clue where to get one... Egnater, maybe I should give them a try, but I doubt they will add anything to my shortlist at this point.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2011, 09:50:40 AM »
Well, I feel I can make a valid contribution here as I play in a covers band and I use a H&K Switchblade. I wrote a review of the Switchblade that you may have read but to summarise, there are pros and cons. The tone isn't as warm and natural as some of the really good, traditional valve amps like a really good Marshall but neither is it bad. It is versatile and a lot more versatile than I need. Of 32 banks of sounds available, I only use three of them and each bank has a Clean, Crunch, high gain rhythm and lead sound available. For two of the banks it's only to change the voicing from British to American and the third bank is only because a particular song we play needs a particular set of effects. Some things I have discovered about it while I've been using it:

1) While the Lead channel is supposed to have a 'British' voicing and the Ultra channel has an 'American' voicing, the bottom line is that they all have a modern feel to them. The distortion is grittier than a Marshall so you can really get it to 'crackle' in a very aggressive way if you want to but it can also be tamed. It's not like a modeling amp because there is no attempt to slavishly duplicate another manufacturer's sound. The Lead channel certainly gives a strong nod towards Marshalls but the tone is still H&K.

2) There are a lot of ways to tweak the sound on a Switchblade because you have EQ, gain, presence, reberb and effects at your disposal and they can all make a serious difference so spending time with it is essential. Sure, it can sound awful, but there are also some really good sounds in there.

3) Newer models come with factory presets stored into the first 16 banks and these can be very useful when understanding the amp. I'm not suggesting they're perfect but they do give you a really good starting point when creating your own tones and I've found that with many of them, only minor tweaking is required. The Gary Moore preset for example was almost spot on right out of the box and I'll be using it next week when the band tries 'Empty Rooms'. If nothing else, the factory presets help you to understand how the amp's controls work quite quickly.

4) For what it is and the quality it is (they're very well built), I think they're priced quite well and they're certainly well priced if you consider what you save on effects (and space). I sold my old amp to help fund the purchase of this one but by the time I'd also sold my distortion, overdrive, chorus, delay and boost pedals and changed to a smaller pedalboard, I actually made a small profit on the whole thing  :D

5) For the first time in my guitar playing life, I am completely GAS free. Are there better amps available? Yes, obviously there are but for what I use mine for, it's absolutely perfect and it's bloody loud. I've done two gigs with it now and I haven't been able to get it past 2 yet!

If you want to spend more money then I found the JVM to be really good. It had some great tones and lots of flexibility but was also more expensive and didn't have the effects built in. I tried the Laney VH100R after I'd already bought the Switchblade and was also impressed with that but I found it to have a grittiness to the distortion that was closer to the Switchblade than the Marshall and an amp that big was simply overkill. I've moved away from big amps with a 4X12 cabinet as it takes up too much room fo no real gain. I put my Switchblade combo on an amp stand so it projects better and mic it if required and I need nothing else at all.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2011, 11:15:14 AM »
Thanks man for that extensive review.
It confirms both my experiences with and expectations of the Switchblade.

All in all, I think I'd rather go for a good core tone. With a good amp and a couple of pedals (which I already own anyway), I'll be able to do most songs justice (my playing is another matter entirely...)

So I'll probably end up with a Splawn Quickrod.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2011, 11:39:20 AM »
That certainly qualifies as a really good amp and I'm sure you'll love it. As with many things to do with guitars, I don't think there is ever a clearly right or wrong choice, just various options that may or may not suit particular individuals. The Switchblade suits me, the Splawn suits you and a JVM may suit someone else. They're all good amps so you really can't go wrong  :D

I look forward to reading a review of your Splawn.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2011, 12:39:30 PM »
Thanks man for that extensive review.
It confirms both my experiences with and expectations of the Switchblade.

All in all, I think I'd rather go for a good core tone. With a good amp and a couple of pedals (which I already own anyway), I'll be able to do most songs justice (my playing is another matter entirely...)

So I'll probably end up with a Splawn Quickrod.


Exactly. A good core tone is for me always a starting point. When the basis is your cup of tea, then you need just some good pedals and there so many great drives/distortions on the market nowadays.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2011, 02:02:12 PM »
Exactly. A good core tone is for me always a starting point. When the basis is your cup of tea, then you need just some good pedals and there so many great drives/distortions on the market nowadays.
The whole idea of this new amp is to get rid of drive and distortion pedals...
That's why the Splawn appeals to me : it's a hotrodded Marshall basically. It has all the tones I need built into it.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2011, 02:50:02 PM »
It has quite some gain on tap, so must do the trick without pedals. I just sometimes use pedals on low stagevolumes bec my rockerverb 50 sounds best when crancked.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2011, 09:24:44 PM »
Exactly. A good core tone is for me always a starting point. When the basis is your cup of tea, then you need just some good pedals and there so many great drives/distortions on the market nowadays.
The whole idea of this new amp is to get rid of drive and distortion pedals...
That's why the Splawn appeals to me : it's a hotrodded Marshall basically. It has all the tones I need built into it.

This is why i built a SLO clone i got absolutely sick of having to use boosts to get the tone i wanted then having to switch channels and switch the boost in and out. Complete PITA

Im so glad that i dont need them now

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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2011, 10:48:49 AM »
This is why i built a SLO clone i got absolutely sick of having to use boosts to get the tone i wanted then having to switch channels and switch the boost in and out. Complete PITA

Im so glad that i dont need them now
Yes!! x10000!
One step should get me all my basic tones. I still need to do some tapdancing to engage my different modulation effects.
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2011, 10:50:02 AM »
i've been sniffing around the egnater tweaker lately - might be worth a look
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Re: Do-it-all amp?
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2011, 10:53:29 AM »
This is why i built a SLO clone i got absolutely sick of having to use boosts to get the tone i wanted then having to switch channels and switch the boost in and out. Complete PITA

Im so glad that i dont need them now
Yes!! x10000!
One step should get me all my basic tones. I still need to do some tapdancing to engage my different modulation effects.

This is where you move onto a rack fx unit that also does channel switching then its just 1 step either way!