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Zaned

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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2011, 05:20:43 PM »
So, silly question, but.... for an HSS guitar you'd need two resistors, one for each single-coil?

At least with the way I did it: yes :)

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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2011, 05:54:02 PM »
Thanks a lot for the advise, I shall try that resistor mod. Maybe I'll play with some different values.

So if wired like this it would have zero impact when I switch to the bridge although the neck HOT would be permanently connected to ground through the resistor, right?

On the other hand I followed TFs advise bringing that stacker super close to the strings, and he might be up to something there.

Did a vid after adjusting the neck PU according to TFs reco, whatcha think?

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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2011, 06:21:45 PM »
i do think slowhand too.. i've seen mention of a 10k overwound version thats possible, though i think the standard one would work well. that resistor mod mentioned is one of tried and can approve of.

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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2011, 11:34:48 PM »
Nolly has a Slowhand neck in this Strat with an Abraxas bridge pickup and 500k (or 550k) pots, seems to work OK  :) :

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25139.0

Funnily enough after a little bit more time spent with that setup in my guitar (which is a very bright sounding strat I must say), Tim and I decided the 550kΩ pots were thinning out the singles too much for our liking. In the end the set now has twin volume pots, with one 250kΩ pot for the singles, and keeping the 550kΩ pot for the bridge humbucker.

That's not to say a Slowhand won't be suitable for your guitar (as I say, my strat is very bright), but I think you should certainly consider a baseplate to boost the low end response. Alternatively a Trilogy Suite would probably do the job you're after perfectly well and would arguably provide a better output balance with the TB-14 in the bridge.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2011, 11:36:41 PM by Nolly »

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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2011, 12:05:05 AM »
Interesting update Nolly.  I think I'll try the 500k + resistor thing.... or maybe even 250k all round - I wonder how much that would "sap" from the humbucker?  I know some Fender HSS models like the Lone Star Strat used all 250k.
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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2011, 11:26:04 AM »

 The way to do this is to solder one end of the resistor to the same lug on the switch where the single-coil hot wire connects. The other end of the resistor gets soldered to ground."


Ok so I have tried it today but it doesn't seem to work as intended.

Problem is, when I connect a resistor as described (I used 1/4W, 5% tolerance, 470K, one end to hot on switch, one end to ground ) it mutes the pickup completely as soon as the resistor touches ground.

I am confused now.
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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2011, 12:36:56 PM »
Ok so I have tried it today but it doesn't seem to work as intended.

Problem is, when I connect a resistor as described (I used 1/4W, 5% tolerance, 470K, one end to hot on switch, one end to ground ) it mutes the pickup completely as soon as the resistor touches ground.

I am confused now.

Have you

1) measured the resistor and made sure it's not shorted (very rare) and
2) made sure that none of the resistor wire coming from the hot output from the switch touches ground?

If the resistor is close to the specified value and does not touch ground  where it should not this will be a very mysterious situation.

Cheers Stephan

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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2011, 01:44:59 PM »
Ok so I have tried it today but it doesn't seem to work as intended.

Problem is, when I connect a resistor as described (I used 1/4W, 5% tolerance, 470K, one end to hot on switch, one end to ground ) it mutes the pickup completely as soon as the resistor touches ground.

I am confused now.

Have you


1) measured the resistor and made sure it's not shorted (very rare) and
2) made sure that none of the resistor wire coming from the hot output from the switch touches ground?

If the resistor is close to the specified value and does not touch ground  where it should not this will be a very mysterious situation.

Cheers Stephan

Ok I measured and it reads 480 Ohm

DOH!

Checked colour code and it says the same.

Double-doh!

So I guess that's the issue  :lol:
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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2011, 01:47:12 PM »
I get it, at 480 Ohm the resistance is so small, I am actually creating a short.
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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2011, 02:34:17 PM »
Oh, so it was 480 instead of 480k?  :lol:

I'm sure I could easily make the same mistake.
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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2011, 02:42:01 PM »
Oh, so it was 480 instead of 480k?  :lol:

I'm sure I could easily make the same mistake.

Well I went to the shop guy and said "Ich brauche Widerstände mit 470K" but probably should have realised that "K" doesn't mean much in German, so I should probably have said "Kilo-Ohm". Well Or I should have understood those colour codes. Why do they use colour codes anyways? Can anyone read that stuff without any guiding table? Damn.

Well, I lost 30 hardearned cents for those three resistors! LOL
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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2011, 02:50:01 PM »
Why do they use colour codes anyways? Can anyone read that stuff without any guiding table? Damn.

I remember being taught them in school.... circa 1980.  Wouldn't have a bloody clue now!
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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2011, 03:56:28 PM »
Well I went to the shop guy and said "Ich brauche Widerstände mit 470K" but probably should have realised that "K" doesn't mean much in German, so I should probably have said "Kilo-Ohm".

Time to change the shop if he mixed that up. Seriously, I participate quite regularly in a German amp forum, and nobody questions that "k" stands for "kiloohm".

At least your issue is found.

Cheers Stephan

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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2011, 12:29:14 PM »
Nolly has a Slowhand neck in this Strat with an Abraxas bridge pickup and 500k (or 550k) pots, seems to work OK  :) :

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25139.0

Funnily enough after a little bit more time spent with that setup in my guitar (which is a very bright sounding strat I must say), Tim and I decided the 550kΩ pots were thinning out the singles too much for our liking. In the end the set now has twin volume pots, with one 250kΩ pot for the singles, and keeping the 550kΩ pot for the bridge humbucker.

That's not to say a Slowhand won't be suitable for your guitar (as I say, my strat is very bright), but I think you should certainly consider a baseplate to boost the low end response. Alternatively a Trilogy Suite would probably do the job you're after perfectly well and would arguably provide a better output balance with the TB-14 in the bridge.

So after consulting with Tim (in his Holiday) I went with Nollys reco to get a TS neck with an added Zinc base plate. I can't wait, my first new BKP in ... years!!!!
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Re: Pickup recommendation for Superstrat / H-S
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2011, 08:41:21 PM »
Yo, hope it works out fine!
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