Coldsweat Bridge appreciation

[Nephilim]

Ah cool thanks well will deffinetely review it once i have a chance to mess around with it.
Well i already have a PRS fitted with a C-Bomb set, and its great but a bit on the scooped side, not a big deal as i play with lots of mids from the amp live, so its fine. But was curious to try something even more versatile maybe and with a bit more mid/high end hence i was advised on the CS-also was told that its extremely clear which sounds very cool!
Will deff mess around with height-do u remember how close you used to have it to the strings (prob a stupid question i know lol)

I thought the Coldsweat was as scooped as the C-Bomb in terms of EQ, except the Cold Sweat has a tad bit more high end? I'm surprised you didn't go for the alnico Nailbomb if you wanted a more versatile p/u with extra mids. But then again EQ aint always the case. I've seen the Holy Diver in Les Pauls that sound great. The good thing is, if you don;t like the Cold Sweat, you're always free to exchange it with another p/u from BKP. That's the great thing about Bare Knuckle :)

[witeter]

i was after some more mid/top end though i do agree that from the eq charts, it does look as scooped but has more highs-as u say all guitar is different so i wont know till i have it installed..nervous wait lol

Yeah thats what i figured if i didnt like it,etc i wuold replace it with an Aftermath-how long have i got to send it back? is it 2 weeks? and do i need to activate the guarantee before doing this? cheers man

[Nephilim]

i was after some more mid/top end though i do agree that from the eq charts, it does look as scooped but has more highs-as u say all guitar is different so i wont know till i have it installed..nervous wait lol

Yeah thats what i figured if i didnt like it,etc i wuold replace it with an Aftermath-how long have i got to send it back? is it 2 weeks? and do i need to activate the guarantee before doing this? cheers man

This is something I'd actually be very interested to know tbh. If you got it from BKP directly, I think it's just a matter of keeping your reciept. Regarding the time you have, I have no idea. I was going to say, if you don't like it; try the Rebel Yell. It's like an Alnico Nailbomb except it tracks the bass notes a lot better (you could say like a Ceramic does tbh) and it just has that bit more presence about it, and is a lot clearer. I find it a lot more versatile too. When you get the Cold Sweats, i think you'll really like the neck pickup, so if you don;t like the bridge, but you do the neck; replace the bridge with a Rebel Yell. They're a great match. I personally don't think the clips do it much justice to show how much of a great pickup it is in terms of sound and versatility

[witeter]

Ah ok cool yeah will drop them an email to find out - it may be an issue because as im not fitting it myself its taking a while to get it sorted (due to backlog of guitar tech) so if i dont like it i will have to make a quick decision if im thinking of sending it back and theres a time constraint.

Thanks for the recommendation-i would never have thought of the Rebel Yell to be honest but will deffinetely consider it if the CS is not my thing-im only getting the bridge btw as i didnt have enough money to get a set. What if i didnt like the CS bridge but just chucked it into the neck and got a different bridge? weird but may work...lol

[Nephilim]

Ah ok cool yeah will drop them an email to find out - it may be an issue because as im not fitting it myself its taking a while to get it sorted (due to backlog of guitar tech) so if i dont like it i will have to make a quick decision if im thinking of sending it back and theres a time constraint.

Thanks for the recommendation-i would never have thought of the Rebel Yell to be honest but will deffinetely consider it if the CS is not my thing-im only getting the bridge btw as i didnt have enough money to get a set. What if i didnt like the CS bridge but just chucked it into the neck and got a different bridge? weird but may work...lol

I wouldn't recommend it, but hey, what do I know? The EMG 85 is actually a bridge p/u ya know? Now it's like the Universal EMG neck p/u. Regarding the Rebel Yell, I was the same. There was nights I even questioned myself if I'd made a mistake. I don't know why, but I had bad vibes from my decision the entire time. it's only a Miracle I ended up actually getting it. I just think the BKP clips and the description kind of gives you the wrong idea regarding its versatility. I think they should add some more clips for it and make the description bigger because, really, it is a great pickup. I'd say its the best pickup for versatility, but the Nailbomb just slightly edges it out due to the fact it seems to work better in most guitars. but for your guitar, it's the rebel Yell over the Nailbomb hands down. You would really be surprised. Nolly on here has a band called Red Seas Fire, and I was blown away by how heavy it actually sounded when you need it to be. But how nice it is for less intense stuff.

Anyways I'm going to shut up now. I'm probably going to make you nervous about ya Cold Sweat if I carry on haha. When the truth is I've never played the CS bridge so I can't compare.

Oh and I've been there before when fitting pickups. I bugger it up everytime I try, so I have to wait like a week for a tech, lol

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Regarding the bridge pickup in the neck slot.

I actually used a bridge nailbomb in the neck with a Miracle man in the bridge for quite some time.

i preferred it in the neck by a long shot it was very fluid and excellent for legato stuff

[witeter]

Hehe no worries man i make myself nervous without anyone saying anything lol-its that thing of not knowing 100% how that pu will react to your specific guitar...ah well , will just have to suck it and see..

Yeah it was Nolly who actually recommended me the coldsweat bridge, so im sure itll be a winner!
the rebel yell does sound intriguing-i know what you mean about the descriptions, its because of that that i would never ever had considered that pup for the stuff i play-id think it was too low output or just not suited for that stuff.

Yeah i knew the 85 was supposed to be a bridge pup! u never know i may stumble on some great sound with the CS bridge as a neck pup-similar to what toe-knee just mentioned, i suppose if u dont try these things youd never know :-)

[Nephilim]

Hehe no worries man i make myself nervous without anyone saying anything lol-its that thing of not knowing 100% how that pu will react to your specific guitar...ah well , will just have to suck it and see..

Yeah it was Nolly who actually recommended me the coldsweat bridge, so im sure itll be a winner!
the rebel yell does sound intriguing-i know what you mean about the descriptions, its because of that that i would never ever had considered that pup for the stuff i play-id think it was too low output or just not suited for that stuff.

Yeah i knew the 85 was supposed to be a bridge pup! u never know i may stumble on some great sound with the CS bridge as a neck pup-similar to what toe-knee just mentioned, i suppose if u dont try these things youd never know :-)

Aye that's always true. Nolly knows his BKPs very well, so you've definitely been advised by someone very well educated. And the Rebel Yell is actually higher output than the Cold Sweat. The Cold Sweat is actually a pretty low output p/u. But you wouldn't think it, tbh. But if it comes to the point where you're not keen on the Cold Sweat, or you think the differences between that and the C-Bomb isn't worth £200 (+fitting), then message Nolly about the Rebel Yell. He knows it VERY WELL!!

[witeter]

Awesome man thanks for that-will deff. drop him a line to recommend me another pup if im not keen on the CS-and yeah i didnt realise the RY was higher output lol just checked the website now! but ive also been told that its not like the CS is weak or anything. One thing that would put me off the Rebel Yell though is the Alnico bridge magnet, now if there was a ceramic option if would be an absolute contender in my eyes for the kind of stuff i play. Im just hoping itll give this other guitar of mine a different tone to what i already have without being too harsh on the treble-ive also read the CS is actually tighter/more percussive than the CBomb which surprised me :-) in a verrrrry good way :-)

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I dont think youll have any issues with the CS.

I personally cant stand Alnico pickups for metal unless im using a modeller as they are nowhere near tight enough unless you hit the preamp really hard with a boost or something which just isnt what i want to be doing

[witeter]

Yeah same here-thats what would put me off the RY tbh, my bridges always have to ceramic, its like the first condition for any of my guitars lol well cant wait for the pup to be installed and to give u guys a review-hopefully itll all work out. I also ordered one of those pots to go with it which suppsedly gives you more top end, so we shall see how it works out with that also..

[Nephilim]

Awesome man thanks for that-will deff. drop him a line to recommend me another pup if im not keen on the CS-and yeah i didnt realise the RY was higher output lol just checked the website now! but ive also been told that its not like the CS is weak or anything. One thing that would put me off the Rebel Yell though is the Alnico bridge magnet, now if there was a ceramic option if would be an absolute contender in my eyes for the kind of stuff i play. Im just hoping itll give this other guitar of mine a different tone to what i already have without being too harsh on the treble-ive also read the CS is actually tighter/more percussive than the CBomb which surprised me :-) in a verrrrry good way :-)

This is something I don't get about the Rebel Yell. Its Alnico, but has the tightness of a Ceramic. Its very very weird. But being Alnico, it regains that more organic feel. It's like the best of both worlds. If you suggested a Ceramic Rebel Yell to Tim, he'd probably just say to get a C-Bomb, lol. Advantage of the Rebel Yell is that it regains that mid range weight. I find the C-Bomb has a kind of grind within the mid range.

Here's something you might never have noticed on the clips: Listen to all the Ceramic Modern Metal clips and leave the Ceramic Nailbomb till last. When you listen to it, you'll recognise a sort of grinding sound that the others don't have. This will make up your mind whether you can or can't live without that certain quality. And something which really is weird; If you listen to the first chord on the C-Bomb, you'll notice that it almost starts to turn into an overdriven feedback, which really adds character. Bit of pointless info, but I had to share it, haha

[Nephilim]

I dont think youll have any issues with the CS.

I personally cant stand Alnico pickups for metal unless im using a modeller as they are nowhere near tight enough unless you hit the preamp really hard with a boost or something which just isnt what i want to be doing

Just listen to Nolly's band 'Red Seas Fire'. now you can't say that's not tight. You can download it for free here ---> http://www.redseasfire.co.uk/

Oh and regarding you saying the CS aint exactly weak. Just look at the Aftermaths output. And that's like BKPs most metal pickup

[witeter]

Ah thanks man-nope i have never noticed that and yes i know what u mean! i do kinda like that but its not something that would be pivotal in my choice. Interesting you mention about the ceramic style tightness of the RY, seems almost as if its some kind of hybrid, even though its not-very intrigued. Oh yeah i know RSF are tiiight but then again it is low tuning and through an Axe-Fx and then professionally reamped-probably a single coil would sound uber tight through a setting like that :-) . I mean more about how the RY would feel when you play live,etc as you cant mess around with the sound as much as when u record and i'd love to hear it with no frills and see how it compares to a ceramic magnet-youve deffinetely got mke theinking though!

Yeah youre right about the output, it can be misleading for ppl still learning about all this stuff like myself as immediately you think oh this is weaker than that one,etc-when its not necessarily the case

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I dont think youll have any issues with the CS.

I personally cant stand Alnico pickups for metal unless im using a modeller as they are nowhere near tight enough unless you hit the preamp really hard with a boost or something which just isnt what i want to be doing

Just listen to Nolly's band 'Red Seas Fire'. now you can't say that's not tight. You can download it for free here ---> http://www.redseasfire.co.uk/

Oh and regarding you saying the CS aint exactly weak. Just look at the Aftermaths output. And that's like BKPs most metal pickup

yeah ive heard it.

its reamped and boosted through a high gain amp.

I prefer to just go straight into an amp with no boosting etc so alnicos are completely out of the question for me.

And also a lot of the tightness on that demo is in the production.

I'm not saying they're bad they just really aren't tight enough for me