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What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« on: December 29, 2011, 09:59:34 PM »
One minute he was here and now he only shows as guest - odd considering he was a moderator and all that .

Did he just tire of the forum, and or some of the petty bickering that has been on here of late?
Did he stop playing guitar ?
Did he stop using BKPs ?
Did he forget to send Tim a Xmas card ?


V curious.........anyone know his whereabouts?
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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 10:11:57 PM »
Maybe hes just busy.

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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 10:27:36 PM »
no - his profile is gone.
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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 10:28:57 PM »
petty bickering?

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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 10:33:11 PM »
Profile deleted?  Bizarre.

Who is/are the mods left then?

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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 10:47:00 PM »
Who is/are the mods left then?
Nolly?

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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 11:43:04 PM »
I was speaking with Ben earlier around this and he has just got tired of the place and all of the childish stuff thats been going on more than anything.

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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 11:44:43 PM »
Maybe because it's mainly djent and less classic metal/rock interest on the board nowadays too?
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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2011, 11:53:11 PM »
I was speaking with Ben earlier around this and he has just got tired of the place and all of the childish stuff thats been going on more than anything.

Yep, been saying the same thing to me.

Maybe because it's mainly djent and less classic metal/rock interest on the board nowadays too?

This could also have something to do with it too. It certainly makes me post less as I can have no input at all into such discussions as I have no experience in the area. Ben is also heavilly focused in similar areas as I am, so it could reason into it.
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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 12:05:03 AM »
Maybe because it's mainly djent and less classic metal/rock interest on the board nowadays too?

I don't think that if you took a poll of every visitor to the site that this would pan out - especially if you polled those who just drop in and read and don't post or even those who read regularly without even being a member.
I think you will find that there is a healthy mix of tastes ranging from rock , pop ,blues, metal, RnB,  surf, country, reggae, soul, gospel, jazz, punk etc etc (sorry if I overlooked your genre)

I do think that maybe there is a lot of vociferous posting from a minority who share  certain more "contemporary" forms of extreme metal/djent /black metal etc, and it is possible to feel that the forum has swayed a bit far that way at times.
Maybe these are just the music forms that appeal to those with time on their hands to post a lot.

It would be nice to see a bit more variety at times and I'd enjoy hearing views on a lot of the other genres and which pickups are great for them. I'm sure it would be good for a lot of the other less vocal visitors too.
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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 12:21:32 AM »
I was speaking with Ben earlier around this and he has just got tired of the place and all of the childish stuff thats been going on more than anything.

I do also feel that there has been a bit too much  antagonistic behaviour on the forum of late - certainly compared to previous years.

As well as incidents of newbies joining up and posting 100 posts a day and starting a new topic with every other post and annoying the rest of the membership till they get fed up and leave/get asked to leave, there has been a little friction amongst more long standing members, which seems unnecessary.
 
It's not usually in the guitars, pickups or musical sections of the forum, but rather in the off tops areas, and (strangely for the internet) not in the usual hotspots : religion or politics, but rather in response to other social issues and attitudes towards honesty/dishonesty and respect.

There have been accusations of trolling or taking a viewpoint /stance on something , almost as if just for the chance to be diametrically opposed to another view put forward, and hence have a chance for debate or friction.

Maybe that is what Ben got tired of - especially as a mod.

Maybe more time playing guitar and less time in front of a PC would be a remedy.

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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 12:23:04 AM »
I do think that maybe there is a lot of vociferous posting from a minority who share  certain more "contemporary" forms of extreme metal/djent /black metal etc, and it is possible to feel that the forum has swayed a bit far that way at times.
Maybe these are just the music forms that appeal to those with time on their hands to post a lot.

Eh?  I'm not into djentism!  :wink:

I think we do get a lot of new threads in the Pickups forum (in particular) from people into those types of music, but that can't be helped, can it?  It would be interesting to see more from people into jazz, country, blues, pop etc but they seem to be thin on the ground.  Maybe BK are developing an image as a "metal" brand, albeit unintentionally?

As for Ben's contributions, maybe he just got bored?  It's human nature, I think.  Maybe if I had more going on in my life I'd spend less time on here too!
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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 12:23:48 AM »
I was speaking with Ben earlier around this and he has just got tired of the place and all of the childish stuff thats been going on more than anything.

I do also feel that there has been a bit too much  antagonistic behaviour on the forum of late - certainly compared to previous years.

As well as incidents of newbies joining up and posting 100 posts a day and starting a new topic with every other post and annoying the rest of the membership till they get fed up and leave/get asked to leave, there has been a little friction amongst more long standing members, which seems unnecessary.
 
It's not usually in the guitars, pickups or musical sections of the forum, but rather in the off tops areas, and (strangely for the internet) not in the usual hotspots : religion or politics, but rather in response to other social issues and attitudes towards honesty/dishonesty and respect.

There have been accusations of trolling or taking a viewpoint /stance on something , almost as if just for the chance to be diametrically opposed to another view put forward, and hence have a chance for debate or friction.

Maybe that is what Ben got tired of - especially as a mod.

Maybe more time playing guitar and less time in front of a PC would be a remedy.



I agree entirely with everything you said there.

I personally don't find myself on here much at all lately. I find myself going to much calmer places when on the internet nowadays.

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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 12:27:52 AM »
  Maybe BK are developing an image as a "metal" brand, albeit unintentionally?

I find this myself a lot lately but not good old metal. Just the more modern kiddy metal.

There is now nothing at all in the range or the upcoming range that im aware of that interests me that i dont own.

I have actually been getting a lot of my pickups elsewhere and only own 2 bkps now just for a bit of a different flavour.

its quite sad really as i always saw BK's as being more vintage/classic orientated and really excelling in this but it seems they are pushing off in a new direction.

However i can't blame them you take the business where the money is,

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Re: What has happened to Ben / Denim & Leather/Twilight Odyssey ?
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 12:28:19 AM »
I do also feel that there has been a bit too much  antagonistic behaviour on the forum of late - certainly compared to previous years.
 
It's not usually in the guitars, pickups or musical sections of the forum, but rather in the off tops areas, and (strangely for the internet) not in the usual hotspots : religion or politics, but rather in response to other social issues and attitudes towards honesty/dishonesty and respect.

It's true, but we still see little of the gratuitous bitching and rudeness that often crops up on other forums.

Those discussions about politics/religion/social issues do get pretty heated, but I think they (generally) remain true debates rather than trading insults.  And they're easy to ignore if they're not of interest.  Once nfe and a few others roll out their big intellectual guns, it reaches a point where I no longer understand what they're talking about so I just tune out....
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