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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2012, 01:15:16 PM »
Get an auralex gramma.

I think this is the big factor in why i get no trouble.

It isolates your cab from the floor stopping about 90% of noise transferance and it also makes your cab sound tighter/punchier

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2012, 01:46:15 PM »
Get an auralex gramma.

I think this is the big factor in why i get no trouble.

It isolates your cab from the floor stopping about 90% of noise transferance and it also makes your cab sound tighter/punchier
I will look into that, sounds like a great and obvious idea.
I have actually done the same thing with me soundsystems subwoofer already which sits on a plate which is a big slice of some variety of styrofoam. Works a charm there. Somehow I did not think to do the same with my cab...

But I think I´ll try to build something myself now (budged and stuff). I got different kinds of foam stuff lying around, so I should be able to whip up something that will work.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2012, 01:54:53 PM »
I personally find that a 50w is absolutely fine for bedroom use.
Dude, tell that to my neighbor. 15Watts is more than enough to easily get that guy fed up. I can´t usually even go where the speakers get working propperly.

My friend had a neighbour who got annoyed if you played an unplugged electric guitar, let alone one plugged in
Paper thin walls or something.....
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2012, 02:06:09 PM »
Has anyone notice how the amps get more knobs as they get newer?  I don't have a problem with noise and the neighbours (every other Friday they have a live band play next door.  I don't bother them about that, and I can play as loud as I want anytime!).  However for my own hearing, I am now using my MJW with power scaling.  It's a Roadstar 36, which means enough power for large rooms, but with the power scaling, you can use it anywhere.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2012, 04:50:06 PM »
The general feeling here is interesting and exactly why I don't make a 1w amp - people want them for next to nothing and compare them to Chinese offerings they can get for £100-200. 

This range Marshall are doing is priced quite fairly imo for a hand-wired amp, however I'd have make these out in China - if Marshall could get these in the £150-200 range they'd have a winner. 


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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2012, 06:21:50 PM »
This range Marshall are doing is priced quite fairly imo for a hand-wired amp...

These aren't handwired though.  :|

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2012, 10:44:14 PM »
The general feeling here is interesting and exactly why I don't make a 1w amp - people want them for next to nothing and compare them to Chinese offerings they can get for £100-200. 

This range Marshall are doing is priced quite fairly imo for a hand-wired amp, however I'd have make these out in China - if Marshall could get these in the £150-200 range they'd have a winner. 


Maybe I'm one of the odd ones out who feel that you don't measure amps by Watts per £ or whatever

I see these as much more usable amps for players that don't go out and gig
They will be ample for recording and certainly loud enough for home use.

The main thing I would look for is for them to have comparable features with the bigger amps
It always annoys me that a lower wattage amp always in the past had just a volume and tone control when I would want to see gain controls and a full tone stack like the bigger amp would have.

That is why I have in the past had to have custom amps built - both the 10w AFD style Super-Marshall that HTH made and a 10w power amp from Martamp/MJW that I use with my Egnater/Randall modular rack system

10w is more than adequate and I don't regret the cost at all as 10w is so much more usable to me than a 50w would be (1 or 2w would  be more than adequate though)
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2012, 11:00:21 PM »
A 1w amp through a 12" speaker is way loud enough for the home - especially if you are using any OD pedals.  Personally I can't see why there aren't more on the market. 
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2012, 01:33:29 AM »
Get an auralex gramma.

I think this is the big factor in why i get no trouble.

It isolates your cab from the floor stopping about 90% of noise transferance and it also makes your cab sound tighter/punchier

That thing looks amazing. I saw it once a while back but forgot about it, thanks for reminding me. Is it strong enough for a full sized (60 pound) head and orange 2x12 though, or do I need the Great GRAMMA for that?


As for the Marshall 1watt heads, I don't like how they use a 12au7 as the power tube instead of an EL34. EL34s are the backbone of the classic Marshall tones, and I'm not sure 12au7s will be able to provide the same sound and feel. They could have used a single EL34 and made it 5-10 watts instead, which wouldn't be too loud but retain more of the characteristics of the amps they're emulating. I guess I'll just have to wait for the more adventurous gearheads to buy one and give reviews.

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2012, 01:36:47 AM »
The most important thing to take into consideration with the Grammas is the actual width of your cab.

If that wont fit its a no go!


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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2012, 01:43:04 AM »
Yeah you're right, I just looked more closely and both are rated for up to 300lbs. Just the size difference then.

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2012, 09:58:45 AM »
A 1w amp through a 12" speaker is way loud enough for the home - especially if you are using any OD pedals.  Personally I can't see why there aren't more on the market. 

Me neither. I'd really like to see more of these. I remember really wanting to get a Zvex Nano Head a few years back but didn't due to thinking it was a bit gimmicky. I'd still like one but a more traditional looking head is better to look at IMO.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2012, 10:30:56 AM »
A 1w amp through a 12" speaker is way loud enough for the home - especially if you are using any OD pedals.  Personally I can't see why there aren't more on the market. 

Me neither. I'd really like to see more of these. I remember really wanting to get a Zvex Nano Head a few years back but didn't due to thinking it was a bit gimmicky. I'd still like one but a more traditional looking head is better to look at IMO.

To be fair, there have been a lot of tiny amps - or "small" amps with power scaling or lower-power settings - hitting the market in the last couple of years.  Loads of stuff in the 5-15w range, which maybe isn't quite "bedroom" levels, but it's a positive trend (IMO).

A couple of years ago I was GASing for a Suhr Badger or Fargen Miniplex, maybe a little Cornell or MJW, then we had the Tiny Terror.... now there are all sorts of mainstream offerings from Vox, Blackstar, Hughes & Kettner, Orange has a whole mini-range, even Mesa and Marshall are on board.

True, there are still very few dedicated 1w (or 0.5w!) models, but we're getting there.  I almost feel spoilt for choice!  :D
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2012, 11:35:18 AM »
Get an auralex gramma.

I think this is the big factor in why i get no trouble.

It isolates your cab from the floor stopping about 90% of noise transferance and it also makes your cab sound tighter/punchier

That thing looks amazing. I saw it once a while back but forgot about it, thanks for reminding me. Is it strong enough for a full sized (60 pound) head and orange 2x12 though, or do I need the Great GRAMMA for that?


Styrofoam and a board would be the DIY method.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2012, 01:39:50 PM »
Get an auralex gramma.

I think this is the big factor in why i get no trouble.

It isolates your cab from the floor stopping about 90% of noise transferance and it also makes your cab sound tighter/punchier

Good call. I thought i'd try one out. Does a great job of stopping the floorboards vibrating