A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!

[Eyes Wide Shut]

The Warmoth Wizard profile is the same as the Wizard 1, which AFAIK isn't available on any current Ibanez model. It's a shallow C whereas modern Ibanez necks are a shallow U.

So would you recommend just getting the Standard Thin then?

[XxpapertigerxX]

I have the standard thin with a 1 11/16 nut and I love it. The fretboard is a bit wider than a Strat fretboard, so there's less string slip off. As for the neck contour, it is like a flatter, thinner version of a Strat neck contour. The most noticable differnece is how much less rounded it is; it looks more like the "D shape" neck from Philly Q's picture. So honestly I don't consider it similar to Strat C type necks, as they feel quite different from one another. In short, Standard Thin = thinner (from string side to back side), flatter, and wider (from one edge of fretboard to the other); Fender C Shape = rounder and narrower (from one edge of fretboard to the other).

(Just so you know, there are three modern Fender Strats in my house, in addition to my guitar with the Warmoth neck. I have also played quite a few Ibanez guitars. I guess all I'm getting at is that I have a pretty solid reference point and so hopefully I'm conveying the nature of the standard thin neck accurately)

One last thing I realized I forgot to mention: I have fairly large hands (more long than wide), but I've found that I'm most comfortable playing necks that are Femder C shape or thinner, rather than larger necks. So I don't think slimmer hands always need slimmer necks, or vice versa. Most people have large enough hands to play most electric guitar necks without excessive effort or struggling; the determing factor of which neck is most comfortable tends to be your playing technique and how you hold the neck.

[Sifu Ben]

The Warmoth Wizard profile is the same as the Wizard 1, which AFAIK isn't available on any current Ibanez model. It's a shallow C whereas modern Ibanez necks are a shallow U.

So would you recommend just getting the Standard Thin then?

Depends on what you want. I just got a Wizard neck from Warmoth and it's very nice indeed.

[Philly Q]

I have the standard thin with a 1 11/16 nut and I love it. The fretboard is a bit wider than a Strat fretboard, so there's less string slip off. As for the neck contour, it is like a flatter, thinner version of a Strat neck contour. The most noticable differnece is how much less rounded it is; it looks more like the "D shape" neck from Philly Q's picture. So honestly I don't consider it similar to Strat C type necks, as they feel quite different from one another. In short, Standard Thin = thinner (from string side to back side), flatter, and wider (from one edge of fretboard to the other); Fender C Shape = rounder and narrower (from one edge of fretboard to the other).

(Just so you know, there are three modern Fender Strats in my house, in addition to my guitar with the Warmoth neck. I have also played quite a few Ibanez guitars. I guess all I'm getting at is that I have a pretty solid reference point and so hopefully I'm conveying the nature of the standard thin neck accurately)

Interesting stuff - I was going mostly by "internet lore" in saying that the Standard Thin was similar to the Fender Modern C.  I've only actually owned one Standard Thin, many years ago.  Since then I've bought the chunkier shapes.   :)

From your description, it sounds more like the Fender American Standard necks from the late '80s and '90s (as I remember them).  When Fender changed from the American Standards to the American Series in 2000, the necks got slightly chunkier, more rounded and they started paying more attention to "rolling" the fingerboard edges.  I think that's when they first started using the term "Modern C" but I could be wrong.

[Eyes Wide Shut]

Well I'm used to playing my Epiphone Les Paul Custom. That's actually got quite a comfortable thin neck. It sort of starts as a C-Shape, gradually turning into a slim, D shape. I guess I'll just have to do a very extensive forum search haha

[XxpapertigerxX]

Yeah that's kind of like the standard thin. It is at it's most round near the headstock, and it flattens out as it approaches the body. It's still on the flatter side down the whole neck, but it does flatten out slightly like the Epiphone you're describing. Another nice feature is that it maintains it's curvature all the way to the heel, unlike the Strat necks, which kind of square off in an extended heel like shape. When I get home tonight I'll take a couple pictures to show you the difference.

[gwEm]

i find the standard thin profile just 'ok', its a just a little bit too thin for me.

on the other hand, you can get some good deals for them in the warmoth showcase, and as philly points out you can then see what your buying, and get it alot quicker too.

often the warmoth necks have their compound radius fingerboards, which is something nice, i like the feeling of it.

[Eyes Wide Shut]

Yeah that's kind of like the standard thin. It is at it's most round near the headstock, and it flattens out as it approaches the body. It's still on the flatter side down the whole neck, but it does flatten out slightly like the Epiphone you're describing. Another nice feature is that it maintains it's curvature all the way to the heel, unlike the Strat necks, which kind of square off in an extended heel like shape. When I get home tonight I'll take a couple pictures to show you the difference.

That would be great, thanks very much :)

[XxpapertigerxX]

I have the standard thin with a 1 11/16 nut and I love it. The fretboard is a bit wider than a Strat fretboard, so there's less string slip off. As for the neck contour, it is like a flatter, thinner version of a Strat neck contour. The most noticable differnece is how much less rounded it is; it looks more like the "D shape" neck from Philly Q's picture. So honestly I don't consider it similar to Strat C type necks, as they feel quite different from one another. In short, Standard Thin = thinner (from string side to back side), flatter, and wider (from one edge of fretboard to the other); Fender C Shape = rounder and narrower (from one edge of fretboard to the other).

(Just so you know, there are three modern Fender Strats in my house, in addition to my guitar with the Warmoth neck. I have also played quite a few Ibanez guitars. I guess all I'm getting at is that I have a pretty solid reference point and so hopefully I'm conveying the nature of the standard thin neck accurately)

Interesting stuff - I was going mostly by "internet lore" in saying that the Standard Thin was similar to the Fender Modern C.  I've only actually owned one Standard Thin, many years ago.  Since then I've bought the chunkier shapes.   :)

From your description, it sounds more like the Fender American Standard necks from the late '80s and '90s (as I remember them).  When Fender changed from the American Standards to the American Series in 2000, the necks got slightly chunkier, more rounded and they started paying more attention to "rolling" the fingerboard edges.  I think that's when they first started using the term "Modern C" but I could be wrong.

What neck profiles do you like?

[Philly Q]

From Warmoth, the only one I really like is the '59 Roundback.  I had an SRV which was OK, but still a bit too slim.

I'm always tempted to try a Boatneck or Fatback, but I'm afraid they might be a bit too big - and I don't really like a neck which is the same depth at the 1st fret as the 12th. 

[XxpapertigerxX]

These two pictures show the difference in fretboard width (both necks have 1 11/16 nut widths):


The first is the Warmoth Standard Thin, the second is the Fender American Series Highway 1.

Finally, one important note: the flash on my camera makes both necks look pretty bad, but the glossy Warmoth is especially badly represented. The Warmoth looks great in real life.

[XxpapertigerxX]

Now here are two pictures that I wasn't going to post but I think they are interesting. Notice how much thicker the rosewood fretboard is on the Warmoth than on the Fender. Ok so I measured it and its only an one milimeter difference, but still...  :D

Note: the order of pictures (Warmoth, then Fender) are the same on every post.

[XxpapertigerxX]

These show the heel extension of the Fender neck compared to the Warmoth like I mentioned earlier.

[XxpapertigerxX]

Here are the two necks as the reach the heel, and as they reach the headstock. (God the stupid flash really makes the Warmoth look bad  :shock:)

[XxpapertigerxX]

From Warmoth, the only one I really like is the '59 Roundback.  I had an SRV which was OK, but still a bit too slim.

I'm always tempted to try a Boatneck or Fatback, but I'm afraid they might be a bit too big - and I don't really like a neck which is the same depth at the 1st fret as the 12th. 

Wow you really like a fat neck then. You should try to find out what the dimensions are on your favorite neck and see where they fall on the Warmoth scale.