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Kiichi

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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 12:37:54 AM »
More treble and high mids. Will 'cut' better through the mix in a band.
Exactly, but I wanne add for clarification that this does not have to mean that it will be biting or harsh.
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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2012, 12:49:15 AM »
More treble and high mids. Will 'cut' better through the mix in a band.
Exactly, but I wanne add for clarification that this does not have to mean that it will be biting or harsh.


Yeah, should have added this. No razorblade sound.
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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2012, 12:52:13 AM »
well a more meaner tone is what im after that has some vintage nostalgia in it.

Cold sweet/ nail bomb have been the suggestions

Also the guy with the panda pick or gal keeps low output pick up's for high gain amps

Even though there are alot of guitarist who play high output pick ups through high gain amps

Zach blair

JB and destortions through a JCM900 DR

Ray toro
JB through DSL/JCM800/Marshall plexi

James hetfield and kirk hammet

EMG80 through mesa and rendalls

Matt bellamy
Nail bomb through His current amps a Licoln and voc ac30 diesel and dsl he's also used the Sinner pick up

Daron malakian

Destortions through a marshall JVM

Offcourse ther are people who go low out to high gain im just making the point does have to limet me.

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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2012, 03:10:36 AM »
Putting the Tubescreamer type pedal in front will dramatically tighten it up, though you are going to loose some of the low-end. 

 I recommend the Maxon OD808 RI or the Barber Driver Direct as far as the od pedals go.  There are many good ones out there, but I like these in particular. 
 
 As far as pickups, it kind of depends on the tuning.  The Rebel Yell is quite awesome if you want to go with Alnico V.  If you want to go in your face kind of sound, Painkiller or Warpig.

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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2012, 05:43:52 AM »
A mean rhythm tone, for older metal, hardcore punk and with some vintage vibe - This is what I'm understanding from your request. You mention early thrash, but also Sabbath - for thrash, you want some tightness, and Sabbath was always known for a darker sound, so you may want to avoid the brighter pickups.

(Doombuggi's getting a little ahead of themselves and recommending really hot pickups meant more for high-gain metal rhythm sounds, which will not go in that direction at all. Warpigs and Painkillers are very different from each other, and also won't sound "vintage," so that's going in a few different directions and they're pretty much the wrong ones here.)

Maybe there's a hot contemporary model you'd really like - but honestly, you may want to look into the "vintage hot" line as much as anything. If both pickups are going to actually sound vintage they'll need to be similar to a PAF set, not some modern 3-magnet ceramic beasts like Painkillers. You could get a hotter, more focused, more modern sounding bridge to tighten things up under gain, and then get a more vintage-voiced neck pickup. That would give you a little more flexibility, but otherwise you should think twice about the hotter sets.

Basically just keep that sound in your head and do some listening and reading on the official pages. More than that I can't really say from experience, and I'm sure someone else could be more specific about which ones to look for, but I figured you could use a little advice

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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2012, 09:24:07 AM »
(Doombuggi's getting a little ahead of themselves and recommending really hot pickups meant more for high-gain metal rhythm sounds, which will not go in that direction at all. Warpigs and Painkillers are very different from each other, and also won't sound "vintage," so that's going in a few different directions and they're pretty much the wrong ones here.)

Perhaps I am. Who knows. It is a considerable thought. With this being stated, a guess  a happy medium to consider is the Rebel Yell.  It is a happy medium, that is reminiscent of an 80's sound, cleans up well, and can remain tight under concentrated gain.  That is what I am currently using in my Les Paul.  I tune to C#.  For the time being I am using a Maxon OD808 RI shoved through the front of a 1989 Marshall 2203 head.  I have to say that its sound quite awesome.  I like the Painkillers, and I am interested in the Aftermath and Warpig Ceramic.  I have had the Holydiver Bridge, the C-bomb set, and the Black Dog set.

 If you are tuning to D standard or higher, the BD totally rule, and can stay pretty focused.  They are pretty awesome set, one my most favorite pickups I have ever played.

 The HD was cool, but not really all my cup of tea.  Same with the C-bomb.  I obviously dig the mid profile pickups. 

I really enjoy the PK, but with the Maxon, the highs were over the top in the Les Paul.  With the the pedal disengaged, I found it more enjoyable, though the bottom end needed to be a bit tighter. 

 Come to find out in my situation, I believe that I am searching for a more modern sounding amp.  So, for the time being, I'm putting off buying any more pickups until the amp situation is solidify.  I'm thinking something, Fortin. 

I think there are many good suggestions here.  Best bet, send an email to the BKP team.  They are most helpful, and pleasant  to communicate with.
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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2012, 09:25:52 AM »
The Rebel Yell closes the gap between vintagehot and contemporary pickups. It has a lot of centermids and is quite bright in the topend, but there's a toneknob... I posted this 0.5 sec after Doombuggi, otherwise I would have second that.
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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2012, 09:34:14 AM »
the nailbomb still sounds more 'vintage' than the rebel yell, in my opinion
midrange is quite riff raffish, but with extra compression and more low mids
the rebel yell is pure 80's, and that's hardly vintage at all
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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2012, 11:41:44 AM »
Maybe im putting too much on to the plate

Im only going to change the bridge humbucker

The amp as it is with just a guitarlead between me and it sound perfect for rhyme playing and i have been able to get metallica kill em all sounds from it.

I would like a pick up in the bridge to do leads the neck pick is a gibson 490 it's very paf and fat and the bridge is just not working it's a 500.

I haven't found i tone yet im madly in love with yet you can get some tone's that are nice but it's not really the tone i would play with in a band.

The bridge is for my leads or just rhyme playing that needs to stand out more rather just fill in the empty noise between the lead guitarist and the bass.What i would want with that is as i do like to play hardcore punk and that will most liklty be the road il go down band wise so that the tone i would like. I like the Gallows lead guitarist tone and he said that the tone he was getting in his guitar was something like black sabbath.I don't know what you consider vintage but a sound raminescent of the 80's and late 70's where bands like gun n roses metallica motorhead etc where coming in the game as the tone of that era always seem to click with me hence why i have an amp from the 80's.

I would also like an amp that could solve the problem making my amp less fuzzy and more like the bands above destorted sounds kinda meat something that sounds like it could cause an earthquake.

Offcourse modification are going to be done e.g preamp tube change /tubescreamer pedal maybe the bad monkey as it have and low and high end setting and a speaker change as i have asked about the fuzz on other forums and how to get ridof it and these are the suggestions.

So i suppose a bridge pick up for leads that voiced for music around the late 70s to 80s that goes around the ball park of hardcore punk and early thrash metal but isn't too far away dosen't have to be bang of all those other bands that i like.

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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2012, 02:24:19 PM »
Personally for anything 80s tones i would go with a miracle man in the bridge.

Its my go to 80s pickup without a doubt.
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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2012, 03:32:31 PM »
None of the bands you listed are even close to what I would think as "vintage sounds"

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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2012, 03:36:25 PM »
None of the bands you listed are even close to what I would think as "vintage sounds"

Vintage metal....

Basically he means non modern/death/tech
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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2012, 05:27:09 PM »
None of the bands you listed are even close to what I would think as "vintage sounds"

Vintage metal....

Basically he means non modern/death/tech
Oh. Well I still wouldn't use the word vintage for that at all.  Heavy metal (Aka black sabbath) Is still prominent its not just djent or modern brutal technical progressive melodic death metal. =P

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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2012, 06:40:55 PM »
Sorry im like 17-18 so what a consider vintage probably is relitively new or maybe thats an assumption.

Would pete townshed be a player who has a vintage tone or would i have to go further back to say BB king? are is vintage not so much a generation thing rather a choice as some guitarist play through an 1974 plexi or superlead with vintage humbucker's like the 57's.

I will need education in this and don't make a pun on my grammer saying that im aware my typing is bad i have big hands and a small laptop keyboard and am dyslexic and have a low processing speed accordion to an IQ test i recently took everything else however is in it's 90's to 80's with an above average IQ But enough about that.

Mean and agressive tone
Something to combat the fuzzy on my amp for a ballsy rock tone
Suited for thrash metal e.g early metallica and hardcore punk.
Help my amp that is good for rhyme guitar to jump to lead guitar/a rhyme that can stand out so i need something that will scream abit.
and to be able to if i wanted to play my other favs

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Re: Picks to suit a Laney
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2012, 08:27:54 PM »
Epiphone les paul Specail II GT mohagony body and neck rosewood fret board.

Huh ??? Are you sure it's a mahogany body ???

FWIW, I happen to own one (swapped it for a marshall GVII pedal I was not using, nuff said), and it's actually plywood body.  I've heard there were some versions made with plain wood so double-check what you actually have before you spend your good money on good pickups. The one I have is a decent entry-level beginner guitar and better than what I expected for the price (35€ :xD), but it doesn't deserve any upgrade, seriously (and I'm definitly not into fancy expensive guitars).

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