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Twinfan

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NAttD!
« on: March 30, 2012, 07:39:21 PM »
Yep - New Attenuator Day!   8)

I've never owned one before, but I've been considering one to let me open up the 65 Amps Empire a bit in the flat to let it 'breathe', but keep the volume down.  £80 on eBay this week and a nearly new Weber Mass Lite 50 has arrived - not a bad price I thought, as they're £130+ new.

I've just tried it out at home with my Dual Terror and it seems to work perfectly - result!


Ian Price

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2012, 07:44:12 PM »
That sounds like a bit of a bargain Dave - good that you'll be able to use the 65 a bit more in the flat.

With this being a new piece of kit for you is it likely that you'll be looking for something better in the next few weeks (or hours) :wink:
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2012, 08:01:12 PM »
That's a good price! Nice tool to keep friendship with the neighbours.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2012, 08:02:48 PM »
Cool beans Dave, sounds like a bargain too! I've been deliberately staying away from GuitarGuitar because I really love those '65 Amps. On another note I didn't know you had a Dual Terror! I just got me another Korean made Tiny Terror (sold my first one to forum member Pete24 and regretted it)  and love it through my old Orange 4 x 12 with G12H30's. You have to let us know how that Weber turns out, I didn't really like the THD Hotplate I had a while bacK and may consider the Weber.

Ian Price

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2012, 08:04:42 PM »
I've heard a few bad reviews about the THD. What did you not like about it? I also know people who lover theirs!

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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 09:09:14 PM »
I can't remember what the setting were, but once I dialed back the volume more than 1 notch it seems to take away some of the dynamics of the amp? It was ok with loads of gain, but for a crunchier sound it just took the edge off it if that makes sense?

Twinfan

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 10:29:17 PM »
Yeah, I've got a Dual Terror as a rehearsal/gig backup amp.  It's nice and handy, sounds great and was a good price used (£300).

Ian - I've no idea what a "better" attenuator is so I think I'll stick with this thanks!  You'll have to try it out for yourself next week  :)

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2012, 07:56:52 AM »
Thats what I like to see, an Ebay bargain. Love getting them myself and love to see others grabbing them too.
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Re: NAttD!
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2012, 12:22:05 PM »
sweet

those webers are meant to be pretty good. haven't tried any attenuators, though :lol: But if i did think of getting one, would probably be a weber as it has a good rep and isn't silly money

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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2012, 01:04:59 PM »
I've no idea what a "better" attenuator is so I think I'll stick with this thanks!  You'll have to try it out for yourself next week  :)

Me neither! Definitely interested in this although I have power scaling. Perhaps for a future purchase - I really miss the sound of my HRD, only sold it as it was way too powerful for the house!
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2012, 01:20:42 PM »
Very interresting stuff. Have been thinking about getting an attenuator for a while now and looking at these Webers, they seem pretty good.
What I really find interresting is the way they build most of theirs, including the one twinfan got. Not using resistors, but rather a speaker motor seems interresting and seems to work.

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2012, 01:27:39 PM »
Definitely interested in this although I have power scaling.

I have the Master Voltage control on the '65, but I think a combination of that and the attenuator will give a better overall tone.  Power Scaling is good, but running output valves at tiny voltages has its drawbacks. on tone.

Ian Price

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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2012, 01:48:59 PM »
I'd never really conisdered that. Showing my technical knowledge limitations here but I always assumed that power scaling was similar to/the same as attentuation.

Definitely interested in trying this out Dave and seeing/hearing what the difference in using this and power scaling is. Do you think there would be much difference i.e. running my amp at full power but with an attentuator vs running it at a largely power scaled output?
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Ian Price

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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2012, 01:50:44 PM »
I can't remember what the setting were, but once I dialed back the volume more than 1 notch it seems to take away some of the dynamics of the amp? It was ok with loads of gain, but for a crunchier sound it just took the edge off it if that makes sense?

Yeah - makes sense and similar to other things I have heard.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2012, 02:34:06 PM »
Yep, there'll be a difference.  Power Scaling down to tiny levels on its own gives a 'small' sound I've found.  Running it at say half, with an attenuator knocking some dB off at the back end, should work well.  Compared to just the volume control on my Dual Terror adding the attenuator gives a larger, rounder sound at the same overall volume level.