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"Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« on: April 06, 2012, 02:05:28 AM »
Hi everyone. Brand new here, and just received a calibrated set of Aftermath 7's after a very long wait for them to be shipped here from the UK.

I have an Ibanez RG1527M (2 hum, 1 vol, 1 tone, 5-way switch)

It just so happens that there is a BKP wiring diagram for this exact configuration, but there is a disclaimer on it that I don't understand: "Neck Pickup magnet must be reversed for correct operation with this type of pickup."

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2012, 02:39:55 AM »
On an Ibanez 2 humbucker guitar with a 5 way switch - in order for it to work properly the magnet in one of the two pickups must be reversed - turned through 180 degrees so that the coil that is normally magnetically north is now south

This is required to get the right sounds and hum cancelling in these positions.
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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2012, 03:32:25 AM »
On an Ibanez 2 humbucker guitar with a 5 way switch - in order for it to work properly the magnet in one of the two pickups must be reversed - turned through 180 degrees so that the coil that is normally magnetically north is now south

This is required to get the right sounds and hum cancelling in these positions.

Okay, that's what I was hoping it meant--simply flip the pickup 180 degrees from what would be "normal."

I had read in another thread here where some poor guy needed to have his humbucker dismantled by BKP (or a very skilled tech) to accomplish this. The thread I'm referring to is this one: https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=27133.0

So, just to double-check, the latter is NOT necessary?

Thanks again.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 03:34:47 AM by webmaestro »
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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 10:42:52 AM »
On an Ibanez 2 humbucker guitar with a 5 way switch - in order for it to work properly the magnet in one of the two pickups must be reversed - turned through 180 degrees so that the coil that is normally magnetically north is now south

This is required to get the right sounds and hum cancelling in these positions.

Okay, that's what I was hoping it meant--simply flip the pickup 180 degrees from what would be "normal."

I had read in another thread here where some poor guy needed to have his humbucker dismantled by BKP (or a very skilled tech) to accomplish this. The thread I'm referring to is this one: https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=27133.0

So, just to double-check, the latter is NOT necessary?

Thanks again.

Sorry - YOU DO HAVE TO OPEN UP THE PICKUP AND REVERSE THE MAGNET WITHIN THE PICKUP if you want the correct coils to be on as per Ibanez's intentions.

Although with the aftermath looking  the same both ways round, if you simply installed it the opposite way around you would have to change the colour coding of that pickup to make it work.

I'm sure Tim has this already sussed out and noted down
Might be worth shooting him an email if that is the way you want to try it
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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2012, 01:36:18 PM »
Wow... that is NOT what I wanted to hear. I live in a small town where there aren't any techs good at even basic guitar set-up, much less a procedure like this.

However, another BKP customer (who is in a similar situation and had a similar question) just forwarded me this StewMac article on "switching a humbucker's polarity." Is this the correct procedure? If so, I may actually be able to do this myself:

http://www.stewmac.com/tradesecrets/ts0069_humbkrcover.hzml?jrl=315403&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ts0069&clk=195805

Thanks for your help thus far.
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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 01:49:02 PM »
You've got to remember that the Aftermath has 3 Custom Sized magnets, so that may make it a hell of a lot more tricky. And Aftermaths are also Double Row Hex Bolts (unless you aske for different), so I don't know how that would affect it :/

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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 02:09:52 PM »
You've got to remember that the Aftermath has 3 Custom Sized magnets, so that may make it a hell of a lot more tricky. And Aftermaths are also Double Row Hex Bolts (unless you aske for different), so I don't know how that would affect it :/

Yes, I have the double-row hex version.

My situation is looking more and more grim. After weeks and weeks of waiting... now this. UGH. I'm hoping I don't have to just call this whole thing off and get a refund (and different brand).
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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2012, 02:22:04 PM »
You've got to remember that the Aftermath has 3 Custom Sized magnets, so that may make it a hell of a lot more tricky. And Aftermaths are also Double Row Hex Bolts (unless you aske for different), so I don't know how that would affect it :/

Yes, I have the double-row hex version.

My situation is looking more and more grim. After weeks and weeks of waiting... now this. UGH. I'm hoping I don't have to just call this whole thing off and get a refund (and different brand).

I can imagine this could be frustrating. I get annoyed when something like this happens in my own City haha.  Email Tim and ask, there's no harm.

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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2012, 02:24:39 PM »
Well, I sent a message using their support form (and included a link to the StewMac article). I've heard a lot about "Tim" on these forums... but don't really know who he is or how to contact him directly. Perhaps he gets those support forms.
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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2012, 02:32:20 PM »

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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2012, 02:37:23 PM »
Well, I sent a message using their support form (and included a link to the StewMac article). I've heard a lot about "Tim" on these forums... but don't really know who he is or how to contact him directly. Perhaps he gets those support forms.

He's the guy who own BKP lol. It's Easter weekend atm so may be a couple days until you get a response.

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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 02:43:15 PM »
I also sent an email to the store where I ordered them, and the rep replied:

"You can take out the Ibanez 5 Way Switch and put in a Fender 3 Way Switch.  If you want the coil tapping ability you can replace the Volume or Tone Pot to do the coil tapping."

I didn't even know something like this was an option. I'll have to travel a few hours to find a tech with this kind of knowledge though. Honestly, I don't care what kind of switches I have--I'm mainly after the series/parallel option.
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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 02:50:30 PM »
I also sent an email to the store where I ordered them, and the rep replied:

"You can take out the Ibanez 5 Way Switch and put in a Fender 3 Way Switch.  If you want the coil tapping ability you can replace the Volume or Tone Pot to do the coil tapping."

I didn't even know something like this was an option. I'll have to travel a few hours to find a tech with this kind of knowledge though. Honestly, I don't care what kind of switches I have--I'm mainly after the series/parallel option.

You can do the Coil Tapping option so both inner slug coils are active, but I think it may still need to be reversed to sort out the hum (can someone verify this?). But regarding the Series/Parallel option, you may need to reverse the polarity (again can someone verify this?). I'm sure someone will be along shortly to explain this a lotlot better that me.

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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 03:04:39 PM »
You can just physically just rotate the pickup and fix it down the other way , but you'll have to turn the wiring colour codes around on the plan to make it work right and that is what sort of fries my brain - hence get an answer from Tim.

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Re: "Neck pickup magnet must be reversed..." WHAT?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2012, 03:08:25 PM »
You can just physically just rotate the pickup and fix it down the other way , but you'll have to turn the wiring colour codes around on the plan to make it work right and that is what sort of fries my brain - hence get an answer from Tim.



Being a Dual Bolt humbucker, wouldn't that be just the same as what it's currently like, except the wires are now reversed? Kind of like writing an 8 upside-down?