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Whats your response to a recording tutor?

I want to learn to record and would seek the help of a tutor
1 (3.7%)
I want to learn but a tutor can bugger off
2 (7.4%)
I never knew of such a thing, I now feel that I can learn to record a bit, it was all quite daunting before
4 (14.8%)
I never knew of such a thing and wish I didnt
0 (0%)
I would learn, then go into competition with you to record other people
2 (7.4%)
I would learn, and then record only my own material because bugger working with other musicians
3 (11.1%)
Afghan Dave
15 (55.6%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Author Topic: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion  (Read 15053 times)

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2012, 04:25:46 PM »
I voted afghan dave to see the poll. Whoever else did.....I really dont know what to say.

sorry, learnt recording and editing when I was a kid back in the analog tape machine days, worked for a couple years as soundop so well, what other option could I decently choose ? :mrgreen:

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2012, 04:25:54 PM »
Is it something you would do at one of your studios or e.g. travel to the persons own workspace?

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2012, 04:39:56 PM »
I voted afghan dave to see the poll. Whoever else did.....I really dont know what to say.

sorry, learnt recording and editing when I was a kid back in the analog tape machine days, worked for a couple years as soundop so well, what other option could I decently choose ? :mrgreen:



Ah! That makes sense.

I dont envy you! 'Undo' being looking around for the bit of tape on the floor and sticking it back in....ouch :lol:

I mean, some people, who shall remain nameless (no one on this forum) I have edited the living shitee out of. If we still used tape, I'm pretty sure I'd still be doing it now.

Ian; both, probably, but likely main (the owners of the building the studio is in are big on teaching stuff) or home. Otherwise I struggle to see how I wouldnt just end up mixing and engineering for them, and though thats my normal job, its not really the point. Suck it and see on that I think; case by case basis, but it will be starting at one of my places.

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2012, 04:47:11 PM »
I assume you would have to be pretty broad in the choice of software you use. I know Logic Pro and Ableton. Im currently teaching a mate how to use Ableton to produce electro house music. He's getting on pretty well with it now. The trouble I found to begin with was that his PC was in such a cr@p state it would not run it smoothly (even though it was well specced enough, it was just in a mess). That and the fact he wanted to run before he could walk.
I don't suppose you know what you would be wanting to charge for the service at this stage?

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2012, 05:12:38 PM »
As you say, a DAW is not hard to learn. I dont really intend to train people in the exact procedures in the DAWs they use, more in the availability of the bread and butter features of all DAWs and what practical benefit they are, how they can integrate them into their workflow in tracking and mixing. I'm pretty to very fluent with Sonar, Reaper and Cubase and familiar enough with PT and Audition to be able to dig out what I want when I need to.

That said, I dont want to make it about the software. Never did. Thats a battle I cant win. I'd need to have all DAWs myself, for a start (And I only have sonar and reaper). It'll be about the methods and techniques, of which the bread and butter features of DAWs are just a very (very, very) small portion.

Good point on the PC side. Thats a deciding factor in using my gear. Though, optimisation of a PC for use as an audio machine is something I could cover (or point people toward the proper methods at least; it doesnt really feel like the sort of thing a lesson should be devoted to, more a box to tick as part of the process).

Price; lets just say 'same as guitar lessons'.

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2012, 12:30:01 PM »
It's a good idea to teach recording.Pretty much anything can be self taught, like astrophysics etc, but you'll waste loads of time getting to a good level even if you develop interesting nuances as a self taught.Also having a tutor doesn't stop you teaching yourself but it may open doors which allow quicker progression.
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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2012, 03:23:17 PM »
Yes, dave, thats why I asked! People are gonna have different perspectives. Andy and Fred want to go it alone. Thats cool. Modula thinks his DAWs manual can teach him to engineer and mix. Manontheedge and psy can already do an alright job and want to step it up, and a teachers something they would entertain for that. And so on and so forth. Most people just want to get some afghan dave.

Some people are gonna want a teacher, some arent, for various reasons.

There are plenty of books around, and I'm not high enough up the food chain to do that anyway.

Yep, of course :)

I've just seen plenty of threads online (not here, on other forums) where someone made a thread to try to gauge interest, and all the forum people were like "that's an awesome idea!", but then when money had to be handed over, suddenly all these people were strangely quiet :lol:

talk's cheap, in other words. Not saying this forum is as bad as some other ones, because it probably isn't, but just it's worth bearing in mind. :)

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2012, 03:54:27 PM »
i've always liked following my own way, so selected the 'bugger off' option.. not that i'm telling you to bugger off or anything ;)
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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2012, 04:58:36 PM »
Too true dave. Such is the nature of things though.

gwem, I sympathise entirely. If I planned on being offended by the 'bugger off' option, I wouldnt have phrased it like that! ;)

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2012, 01:06:49 PM »
I too went for the Afghan Dave option  :lol:

Just because I did music at college, then recording at night school and then worked in a commercial studio for a while so don't feel I'd get too much out of something like that.

Had I not done all my past training and experience, then it's something I'd consider sure.
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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2012, 02:24:25 PM »
Too true dave. Such is the nature of things though.

yep

sometimes i sound a bit pessimistic or whatever, but at least I'm sorta being honest. As you said earlier in the thread, honest answers are more useful than diplomatic ones which might give you the wrong end of the stick. :)

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2012, 11:04:01 AM »
So do 15 of us win Afghan Dave or something? Where's my bloody prize, eh?

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2012, 11:45:50 AM »
I assumed that Afghan Dave would be delivering some sort of training, any sort of training he fancies, to the folk that have requested it...

In my experience, though, a class of 15 is getting a bit large for proper hands-on tuition. He's probably going to have to run more than one session...
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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2012, 09:30:37 PM »
I've just f**kin' seen this topic!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I feel kinda touched that 15 of you requested my training, which is ironic because 15 of you will be "kinda touched" during my training!  :P

I'll have confidentiallity agreements and legal waivers that need signing in the post to you all as soon as I receive your home addresses and bank sort codes.

I'm really looking forward to this!

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Re: Some market research, if you would please give your opinion
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2012, 10:55:41 PM »
I've just f**kin' seen this topic!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I feel kinda touched that 15 of you requested my training, which is ironic because 15 of you will be "kinda touched" during my training!  :P

I'll have confidentiallity agreements and legal waivers that need signing in the post to you all as soon as I receive your home addresses and bank sort codes.

I'm really looking forward to this!



:lol:

No 'production' jokes?

Not even an 'I'll engineer you'

Tut tut. I know your punmanship is of a higher standard that this.

Anywho, I fired up this little project (i.e. advertised it) and have the first pupil lined up now. He was encouraged to come to me by one of my recording clients actually, which was a bit touching in itself :lol: Heres hoping it goes well.