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Ian Price

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Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« on: April 25, 2012, 11:50:57 AM »
Hello all,

I may be in a position to buy back my '62 reissue custom telecaster at some point at a pretty cheap price. I shouldn't have sold this guitar although didn't really get on with the neck that well - it was a flattish C shape and I now prefer something a bit more chunky. I love the neck on my Baja and was wondering how easy/possible it would be to retro fit it onto the body of the '62.

I know I could give it a go and see what happens but don't really want to mess around with it if it is not advisable. I'm not sure what the dimensions of neck pockets/necks are on either guitar and am hoping somebody far more informed may have some views!

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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 11:59:27 AM »
It should be a straight swap, Ian.  I'm pretty sure Mexican and Japanese specs match.

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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 12:55:55 PM »
Cheers Dave - the deal may not happen but would be looking at doing this if it does.
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 02:58:22 PM »
Yeah, Fender necks, wherever they're made, are interchangeable nowadays unless (possibly) you're looking at really cheap Squiers.

Of course you might find one neck is a bit tighter/looser in the pocket than another - Fender's tolerances aren't as tight as Warmoth's!
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 12:48:18 AM »
To me that sounds like a lot of hassle. I stopped buying a guitar when the neck is not right for me. I always end up selling it.
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2012, 01:30:47 AM »
To me that sounds like a lot of hassle. I stopped buying a guitar when the neck is not right for me. I always end up selling it.

Yeah, me too. Although the body of the 62 custom looks great and I don't like the really thick finish on the Baja.
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2012, 09:06:14 AM »
It's an easy swap, I reckon you'll have a tasty guitar after that Ian...

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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 09:33:59 AM »
I reckon so too - just need to convince my brother in law (technically not my brother in law but might as well be) to sell it back to me!

If not I could go down the Warmoth, All Parts or MJT route.
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 10:15:05 AM »
Hmmm... interesting. You could get a cracking guitar, but you could easily end up with two guitars that don't seem to have the magic of either. You'll only find out by trying.

You're talking about a CIJ/MIJ custom? I have one hanging right next to my Baja, and I know exactly what you mean about the neck, but I find I can get used to either.

Finish-wise, the Baja is thicker (I think) but, still, I find both of them feel a bit plasticky compared to some others in the arsenal if I start thinking about it. They both get played less because of it.

I've never considered swapping the necks - a maple board on the custom just wouldn't grab me - but I do find myself wondering whether the custom would sound as good as I think it does now if it had the big maple thing attached to its alder body. I might like it, but I do value the smoothness it has now compared to the brash Baja.

Another thing to consider (over fitting), and don't quote me too much, I'm not at home to look and this is only a recollection. I seem to recall reading (probably on tdpri) from some guy that's got loads of them, that the Baja neck sits further out of the body than many teles, and the angles on the bridge are a major factor in giving it the mojo that it's got going... Is this because the heel is deep or because the Baja neck pocket is shallow?

And, er, well... to me the two guitars are what they are - I know they're designed for replacing bits etc - but I probably wouldn't bother spending two sets of strings and the time required (and the possibility of not being able to get back where I started) to find out if I like the swap...

But remember, I'm lucky enough to be able to play any neck length/radius/profile/frets and not feel too much of a shock. The only thing that really affects me adversely is if the action is too low for me (frets do come into play here, I guess) or the strings are too light - those are usually more adjustable, though. So I haven't really got the same reasons as you do for wondering about it....
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 10:28:38 AM »
Thanks Andy - that's a really helpful and interesting post that has got me thinking about why I would consider doing such a thing.

I really love the look of a '62 custom with an all maple neck. My favourite tele body style is either a single or double bound, my favourite neck is all maple. I just don't seem to be able get on with anything other than a maple fretboard, this is something that took me years to realise.

The other consideration here is that I can't afford to really buy the guitar(s) I really want due to my family and finnce situation so I'm wondering if this urge to do something has come about because I am not able to get out there and buy what I would like i.e. a CS Fender, Bravewood or something custom made by a forum member.

Perhaps it would be best to not d!ck about with swapping necks/bodies if I was to get a good price for the '62 offered to me and just hold on to what cash I have now (although it is not much  :() and focus on what should be a better financial outlook once 3 of my kids are out of nursery.

Thanks again Andy - really good post and really helpful in me focussing on why.
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 11:03:53 AM »
Hmmm... interesting. You could get a cracking guitar, but you could easily end up with two guitars that don't seem to have the magic of either. You'll only find out by trying.

I think Andy has a good point there - much as I enjoy putting guitars together from bits, swapping necks on existing guitars is a different matter.

You will notice a difference in the sound, maybe "better", maybe "worse", but it won't be same guitar any more.  And - if you're like me - you may feel a sense of loss.  :lol:

I once put an all-maple neck instead of the maple/rosewood one on my '90s Tele Thinline; it sounded fine and I probably would've left it there if I'd built it from scratch.  But it didn't sound anything like it had before.... so the old neck went back on, and there it stays.  :)
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 11:26:30 AM »
Well, you guys are tallking me into it AND out of it! The joys of being into guitars.  :lol:
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2012, 11:37:47 AM »
I meant to end my previous post by saying:

At the end of the day, it's easily done and easily reversed.  Much easier than changing pickups.  Give it a go and see how you like it!  :D
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2012, 01:21:24 PM »
Ah, if I liked the look of maple board on a custom... it is quite possible I might have tried it by now! :lol: (Maybe with neck off another tele I have, rather than the Baja, though).

And like Philly says (assuming you can get enough "ownership" of the 62 to try it), it wouldn't take too much effort to give it a go and keep it reversable.

It's interesting what you say about only being able to get on with maple boards. Are we talking feel and/or sound here?

I'm finding, much to my surprise actually, that I probably prefer the feel of maple boards. But I much prefer the look of rosewood, and I believe I prefer the sound as well. I know there are folks swear blind that there's no great difference in sound between maple/rw than there is between two different rw boards, say... but I'm afraid I don't believe them based on my experiences so far! :lol:


Anyway, based on your preference for looks and your preference for fingerboard, AND your preference for this specific neck... it's almost a no-brainer if you owned the 62. But re-acquiring the 62 to perform the experiment, knowing what you really want is something else.... I dunno
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Re: Baja/'62 Custom reissue tele question
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2012, 01:51:18 PM »
I'm finding, much to my surprise actually, that I probably prefer the feel of maple boards. But I much prefer the look of rosewood, and I believe I prefer the sound as well. I know there are folks swear blind that there's no great difference in sound between maple/rw than there is between two different rw boards, say... but I'm afraid I don't believe them based on my experiences so far! :lol:

I haven't got your ears (obviously) but if I was asked to blindfold test a random Strat or Tele I don't think I'd have any idea if it was a maple or rosewood board.

But changing the necks on that Thinline made a big difference.  With the rosewood board, it sounds bright, snappy, almost harsh if you pick hard, but can sound warm if you pick more gently.  With the maple board, it suddenly seemed to be impossible to get a warmer tone.

I don't know if that's the "real" difference between maple and rosewood, though, or just the difference between those two particular necks.

I think I am coming to believe the theory that - at least with bolt-on guitars - the neck material/construction affects the tone more than the body does.
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