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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 07:34:13 PM »
I'm pretty sure it'll do what you want it to do

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 07:40:22 PM »
Ok, so you guys are all recommending the Holydiver. Is the pickup really going to stay balanced and clear on every string? Because that's what's most important to me. Just like Misha shows here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izVxaVVZrd0

Starting with 1:30 where he plays the chords. I know those are Aftermaths, but in the end if you can guarantee that the Holydiver has at least the same or even better clarity than the Nailbomb, then I'm sold. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for the "Djent" tone, I just love crystal clear chords)

It wont be as clear as the aftermath but it will be more lively than the aftermath. It will also be more clear than the nailbomb. This is because:
1) Lower output generally contributes to more clarity.
2) The richer and slightly more present top end (as Eric mentioned) will make it slightly clearer but it will retain a strong midrange and similar Low end to the Nailbomb. Maybe slightly more open (that also contributes to clarity).

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2012, 07:47:40 PM »
Ok. So it will be the Holydiver. Thanks guys. Fun fact: after their show in my town Josh Middleton from Sylosis himself told me he's using Holydivers in his Les Paul. And I love Sylosis ^^

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2012, 08:37:47 PM »
having straight swapped from the aftermath to the holy diver in my les paul custom, I could tell they are pretty similar in voicing
main difference is that the aftermath is louder and much more metallic sounding
the diver has a softer picking response, but it's still pretty clear
string separation is even more evident, as it's not as high output and a little less aggressive in the mids
the diver also sounds thicker on leadwork

Sylosis is on my top 10 modern metal bands easily :D
Josh soloing style really makes me jealous and amazed
hard to find true creative guys on their style these days
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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2012, 09:09:31 PM »
Well then I shall have fun with the Diver :D

Josh as person is really shy actually and not really outgoing. Bailey is the complete crazy nut in the band xD
They stayed at my place after their show in Vienna, at their merch table was a paper written saying "need a place to stay the night, will pay with merch and booze" and luckily I was the first one to approach them. It was fun, next day me and some friends showed them around the city before they left heading to Poland, unfortunately I couldn't ask Josh for a lesson since he was the first one who fell asleep in bed after we arrived at home :/

Still one of the best days in my life and a hell of a band, can't wait for the new record :D

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2012, 09:28:11 PM »
Well then I shall have fun with the Diver :D

Josh as person is really shy actually and not really outgoing. Bailey is the complete crazy nut in the band xD
They stayed at my place after their show in Vienna, at their merch table was a paper written saying "need a place to stay the night, will pay with merch and booze" and luckily I was the first one to approach them. It was fun, next day me and some friends showed them around the city before they left heading to Poland, unfortunately I couldn't ask Josh for a lesson since he was the first one who fell asleep in bed after we arrived at home :/

Still one of the best days in my life and a hell of a band, can't wait for the new record :D

Never heard of them before today and I'm really not much of a metal fan. Only metal I listen to is Dio, Black Sabbath, Dream Theater and Alter Bridge (If you can call them metal).
Nonetheless I looked up Sylosis and listened to a few songs.
Reaction:... THAT... WAS... $%&#ING AWESOME!!
Josh's playing (He's the guitarist... right?) is stunning and everything was composed so well. I'm not a big fan of screaming but the singer really was excellent.
I have no doubt that I'll be listening to them more from now on (and maybe learning a few of their songs)!

Oh, and of course, you wont have any problem recreating his tone with the HDs seeing as he uses them and it's pretty evident in their sound too. Very big thick and creamy but still aggressive. That pretty much sums up the HDs for you.

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2012, 09:52:17 PM »
Awesome! Glad to welcome you to the club of Sylosis fans :)
The first record they made (Conclusion of an Age) is with their old singer Jamie Graham. It was untill the second album (Edge of the Earth) when Josh decided to do vocals on his own. So he is the genius riffing while screaming and soloing like a god. Check out "Reflections through Fire" and "Last remaining light" (unbelievable lydian solo in the style of Steve Vai beginning with the fourth minute) from Conclusion of an Age and "Empyreal" and "Eclipsed" from Edge of the Earth. Some of the best songs. New record is on the way. Those guys play in E-Standard btw, the ultimate proof that you don't need to tune down to sound heavy :)

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2012, 10:08:16 PM »
Awesome! Glad to welcome you to the club of Sylosis fans :)
The first record they made (Conclusion of an Age) is with their old singer Jamie Graham. It was untill the second album (Edge of the Earth) when Josh decided to do vocals on his own. So he is the genius riffing while screaming and soloing like a god. Check out "Reflections through Fire" and "Last remaining light" (unbelievable lydian solo in the style of Steve Vai beginning with the fourth minute) from Conclusion of an Age and "Empyreal" and "Eclipsed" from Edge of the Earth. Some of the best songs. New record is on the way. Those guys play in E-Standard btw, the ultimate proof that you don't need to tune down to sound heavy :)

Thanks!
And about the tuning...
I was absolutely shocked when I looked up the tabs for one of their songs and saw that it was in standard tuning!

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2012, 10:25:53 PM »
Awesome! Glad to welcome you to the club of Sylosis fans :)
The first record they made (Conclusion of an Age) is with their old singer Jamie Graham. It was untill the second album (Edge of the Earth) when Josh decided to do vocals on his own. So he is the genius riffing while screaming and soloing like a god. Check out "Reflections through Fire" and "Last remaining light" (unbelievable lydian solo in the style of Steve Vai beginning with the fourth minute) from Conclusion of an Age and "Empyreal" and "Eclipsed" from Edge of the Earth. Some of the best songs. New record is on the way. Those guys play in E-Standard btw, the ultimate proof that you don't need to tune down to sound heavy :)

Thanks!
And about the tuning...
I was absolutely shocked when I looked up the tabs for one of their songs and saw that it was in standard tuning!

Jup, also talked to Josh about it. He said he's more the fan of old school metal and old school gear, and he said that's the reason why they use Gibson Guitars, Marshall and Orange Amps and Standard Tuning. With Sylosis you will never find an Axe FX, any fancy modern guitar or digital stuff. That's also a thing that really fascinates me about this band :)

Check out this amazing video by Josh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waszqgxsEBU

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2012, 10:28:33 PM »
Btw the video is old, that was before he used the Holydiver

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2012, 10:35:33 PM »
I remember he had an esp eclipse with emgs 4 years ago, then a painkiller or something
this and peavey amps
his rig changed quite a bit
he is actually a BKP forum member, but I haven't seen him here for years
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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2012, 10:42:27 PM »
As said he displays everything he uses in the video I posted, except that he's now using Holydivers in the Les Paul. That's at least what he told me and the show was in March :)

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Re: Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2012, 01:53:06 AM »
+1 for holy divers in les paul, and Sylosis too

This Rebel Yell vs Nailbomb thread is great lol
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